TQ Black Diamond Speaker Cables on Home Dem?

Posted by: wenger2015 on 03 March 2017

The TQ Black Diamond Speaker cables have arrived for a home demo.

I have invited Finkfan over, so as to have a 2nd opinion.

We played a familiar cd from the group Fink, we both often use this as the reference cd for any potential upgrades.

After the first track, I immediately realised these cables are going to be good...

After the second and third tracks I almost found myself speechless .....bearing in mind I'm used to listening to TQ ultra blacks, which in my opinion our very very good, I've also had Super Lumina on dem a few weeks ago....which again our very very good....

All I can say is WOW, the extra detail, the timing, the soundstage , just everything is absolutely exquisite ...magic....talk about the musicians being in the room....

As each track played, the cables just seemed to get better and better and better....one particular review described these cables as being a masterpiece of cable design.... It summerises it perfectly....

What did my good friend Finkfan think? With his much younger ears?

Well exactly the same as me, I don't think I've seen a bigger grin on his face....

We both sat and listened to 10 tracks, both of us thinking the same thing...Are they worth £630 per metre? , absolutely .....

I will be having a really enjoyable weekend....

And Yes, I will be ordering a set...

Posted on: 16 March 2017 by wenger2015

Hungryhalibut posted:
You'd be better getting a new CD player, preamp or stand before spending even more on cables. The prioritisation seems to be rather unbalanced.

Thanks to my magnetic and charming personality... my dealer is a really good friend now.....so the cost of px to the new cables, black or silver diamonds is extremely small ...

Posted on: 16 March 2017 by Finkfan

As mentioned in your wood or glass thread Wenger, wood isn't just wood, glass isnt just glass and wire isn't just wire!

Posted on: 16 March 2017 by wenger2015

Finkfan posted:
As mentioned in your wood or glass thread Wenger, wood isn't just wood, glass isnt just glass and wire isn't just wire!

Yes, spot on.....those that have heard the Black diamonds, if funds allowed would not send them back...

Posted on: 16 March 2017 by Finkfan

Plugging in those black diamonds let's you hear all those little details you've been missing for years!

Posted on: 16 March 2017 by Mayor West

Haven't heard much feedback about the Silvers so a trial would be interesting.

Posted on: 16 March 2017 by hungryhalibut

You can be damn sure they would make the black diamonds sound broken. All that detail! The performers are in the room! An extra octave of bass! You can hear the drummer picking his nose!

Posted on: 16 March 2017 by GraemeH

Hungryhalibut posted:
You can be damn sure they would make the black diamonds sound broken. All that detail! The performers are in the room! An extra octave of bass! You can hear the drummer picking his nose!

The guitarist picking his nose surely?

Posted on: 16 March 2017 by wenger2015

GraemeH posted:
Hungryhalibut posted:
You can be damn sure they would make the black diamonds sound broken. All that detail! The performers are in the room! An extra octave of bass! You can hear the drummer picking his nose!
The guitarist picking his nose surely?
G

More likely the vocalist the others don't have a hand spare....

Posted on: 16 March 2017 by hungryhalibut

The drummer has sticks.

Posted on: 16 March 2017 by wenger2015

Hungryhalibut posted:
The drummer has sticks.

It would only work if he had a set of extremely large nostrils.....

Posted on: 18 March 2017 by KTMax

Interesting all this talk about TQ cables. I didn't know them. They don't seem to be very well known here in the Netherlands (yet?). The raving views are pretty strong.

Thing I wonder is, cables - any cable - usually take a long time to break-in before they show their full potential and character. Speaker cables in particular imo. I think I've never auditioned a cable that was great straight out of the box unless most of the break-in was done by the manufacturer with a cable cooker.

Does TQ do a factory break-in too?

Posted on: 18 March 2017 by leni v

wenger2015 posted:
Foot tapper posted:
Excellent feedback Wenger.
Given the choice, would you spend £6,500 for 2x5m lengths of this cable or would you spend it on improving your sources?
It's a personal judgement call. I would personally put the money into the turntable/arm (as a vinyl music lover) and maybe swap the XPSDR for a 555PS, but it's your call not mine - hence the question.
Best regards, FT
This is the reason I have been waiting for these cables to arrive for a home dem, the questions can only be answered in my view by this method.
If I decided this was going to be my final upgrade, then I would with a big smile spend my money on these cables.... the bonus for me is I only need 2x 2m lengths and I can get full px on my 2x3.5m ultra blacks....so it's a no brainer as they say...
As I have said in previous comments, I am not one for exaggerated statements, but these cables are the best I have ever heard by some distance....

should n t it be twice 3.5 m too

Posted on: 18 March 2017 by Finkfan

KTMax posted:
Does TQ do a factory break-in too?

No they don't. They do sell their own 'system disc' to aid the burn in process. If you buy their top of the range silver diamonds the disc comes with them.

Posted on: 18 March 2017 by wenger2015

leni v posted:
wenger2015 posted:
Foot tapper posted:
Excellent feedback Wenger.
Given the choice, would you spend £6,500 for 2x5m lengths of this cable or would you spend it on improving your sources?
It's a personal judgement call. I would personally put the money into the turntable/arm (as a vinyl music lover) and maybe swap the XPSDR for a 555PS, but it's your call not mine - hence the question.
Best regards, FT
This is the reason I have been waiting for these cables to arrive for a home dem, the questions can only be answered in my view by this method.
If I decided this was going to be my final upgrade, then I would with a big smile spend my money on these cables.... the bonus for me is I only need 2x 2m lengths and I can get full px on my 2x3.5m ultra blacks....so it's a no brainer as they say...
As I have said in previous comments, I am not one for exaggerated statements, but these cables are the best I have ever heard by some distance....

should n t it be twice 3.5 m too

You don't need to have a minimum 3.5 length with TQ cables, I'm pleased to say.

Posted on: 18 March 2017 by leni v

wenger2015 posted:
leni v posted:
wenger2015 posted:
Foot tapper posted:
Excellent feedback Wenger.
Given the choice, would you spend £6,500 for 2x5m lengths of this cable or would you spend it on improving your sources?
It's a personal judgement call. I would personally put the money into the turntable/arm (as a vinyl music lover) and maybe swap the XPSDR for a 555PS, but it's your call not mine - hence the question.
Best regards, FT
This is the reason I have been waiting for these cables to arrive for a home dem, the questions can only be answered in my view by this method.
If I decided this was going to be my final upgrade, then I would with a big smile spend my money on these cables.... the bonus for me is I only need 2x 2m lengths and I can get full px on my 2x3.5m ultra blacks....so it's a no brainer as they say...
As I have said in previous comments, I am not one for exaggerated statements, but these cables are the best I have ever heard by some distance....

should n t it be twice 3.5 m too
You don't need to have a minimum 3.5 length with TQ cables, I'm pleased to say.

why not ? confirmed by naim?

Posted on: 18 March 2017 by Finkfan

Confirmed by TQ.

Posted on: 18 March 2017 by Timmo1341

Finkfan posted:
Confirmed by TQ.

Have Naim proffered any opinion? One might be tempted to say of TQ "well, they would say that, wouldn't they?". It might be nice to have a more independent, objective opinion.

Posted on: 18 March 2017 by Wilko

Well I have a mere 3m ultra blacks with my 250DR and all is copacetic – no hot running etc..

Posted on: 18 March 2017 by wenger2015

Timmo1341 posted:
Finkfan posted:
Confirmed by TQ.
Have Naim proffered any opinion? One might be tempted to say of TQ "well, they would say that, wouldn't they?". It might be nice to have a more independent, objective opinion.

I don't suppose Naim will recommend using someone else's cables, whatever the length?

Posted on: 18 March 2017 by wenger2015

Just had notification from my dealer the TQ Silver Diamonds will be delivered for home dem next week.

I will be able to have the opportunity to directly compare with the Black Diamonds ....

It's going to be an exciting week....

happy days ..

Posted on: 18 March 2017 by Finkfan

I have cleared my diary for next weekend!

Posted on: 18 March 2017 by wenger2015

Finkfan posted:
I have cleared my diary for next weekend!

Excellent, it's going to be a very interesting, the independent reviews suggest they are an absolute revelation in cable technology .....I can't wait to hear them.....i don't normally do ' excited' but I must confess I am...

Posted on: 19 March 2017 by Rob T

wenger2015 posted:
Finkfan posted:
I have cleared my diary for next weekend!
Excellent, it's going to be a very interesting, the independent reviews suggest they are an absolute revelation in cable technology .....I can't wait to hear them.....i don't normally do ' excited' but I must confess I am...

Keep us posted on how it goes not that I'm thinking of upgrading from the black diamonds as I am over the moon with what they do and at 2X 5m the silvers would be a step too far for me.

Look forward to hearing your impression and comparison to the blackD.

Posted on: 19 March 2017 by sbilotta

Rob T posted:
wenger2015 posted:
Finkfan posted:
I have cleared my diary for next weekend!
Excellent, it's going to be a very interesting, the independent reviews suggest they are an absolute revelation in cable technology .....I can't wait to hear them.....i don't normally do ' excited' but I must confess I am...
Look forward to hearing your impression and comparison to the blackD.

Posted on: 19 March 2017 by pt109

Wilko posted:
Well I have a mere 3m ultra blacks with my 250DR and all is copacetic – no hot running etc..

2.5m Blue Diamonds with SN2 driving 4ohms, 88db speakers, no prob.