Tellurium or Chord
Posted by: lyndon on 12 March 2017
while there has been much discussion on these recently there has been little in the way of comparisons.
All my other upgrades have only one available option
ie super cap Dr, 552, 3 x 500's
its only the cables that could have more than one possibility
looking chiefly at Chord Signature & Sarum and Tellurium Utra Black & Black Diamond
Lyndon
I think, as with everything, it's all down to personal opinion and no doubt ones personal budget.
For me cables, interconnects are extremely important in system synergy... so purchase the best your budget allows
Hello Wenger2015
i think the price points here are pretty similar
i.e. Chord Sarum or Tellurium Black Diamond
or the cheaper alternative
Chord Signature or Tellurium Ultra Black
this is in context of future upgrades to 552 & 3 x 500's
currently have a full blown LP12 & DBL's
Lyndon
I have heard the Chord cables, but only in the demo room, unfortunately I was somewhat underwhelmed. It didn't help, the demo room being about the size of a broom cupboard.
The TQ ultra black and Black diamond are exceptional, they would be my preference.
I had Chord Epic Reference (1 step below the Signature) for 3 weeks and returned it for Tellurium Q Ultra Black (to be delivered next week).
The Epic Reference is a good allrounder but without the "wow" factor. I guess the Signature and Sarum are much better though.
Will be happy to post my observations regarding the TQ UB later next week.
We have a dealer on the west coast in the States that sells Tellurium Black and Ultra Black cables, he also sold Naim for years, but has dropped Naim in favor of some other brands, he doesn't care for Naim any longer for whatever reasons. I did a short demo.
Would the members who have this cable please tell me what they are hearing, I know what I heard, I am just curios to what they are hearing. I don't claim to have golden ears but I would like their description difference to say NACA 5 and HiLine cables. Which cable is brighter, smoother, more drive, etc, etc, etc?
Chord Signature user here. Excellent imo.
Another fan of the TQ cables. They just sound right.
I went to the Chord demo in Bristol and I was very unimpressed.
If I remember correctly [@mention:50422349809511500] used to use a chord speaker cable and then changed to the TQ black. The improvement was very easy to hear. I was hoping not to hear any difference, it would have saved a lot of money!
I have cables by both , Chord digital and TQ analogue . All good .
I moved from years with A5 to Tellurium Black which trampled all over the A5 and they're at the same price point. Clarity, darkness, sweeter HFs, better bass definition and separation of instruments were the main points. No negatives except perhaps marginally lighter in low end bass ( or is that due to bass definition i.e. Start/stop). I had Blacks for a year and was intrigued what Ultra Blacks could do given the Black performance. It was a definitively better and more over the Black. I even A/B demoed the UB with Superlumina, it was the UB for me. The essence of the experience is don't just taken forum opinions as gospel, go out and borrow some leads from dealers to try at home - it's the best way!
ayisgroovy posted:I moved from years with A5 to Tellurium Black which trampled all over the A5 and they're at the same price point. Clarity, darkness, sweeter HFs, better bass definition and separation of instruments were the main points. No negatives except perhaps marginally lighter in low end bass ( or is that due to bass definition i.e. Start/stop). I had Blacks for a year and was intrigued what Ultra Blacks could do given the Black performance. It was a definitively better and more over the Black. I even A/B demoed the UB with Superlumina, it was the UB for me. The essence of the experience is don't just taken forum opinions as gospel, go out and borrow some leads from dealers to try at home - it's the best way!
Similar experience as yours, now just about to move on to black diamonds, but as you say always dem at home, what works for one might not for another..
I've just removed a set of ultra blacks I've been using and gone back to black (only because the ultra blacks must be returned). The blacks sound thin and compressed by comparison. 282 is up next for me and then ultra blacks to get all that Naim goodness over to my Speakers.
I realise this is a Tellurium vs Chord thread but as we are talking about use predominantly with Naim gear why has the SuperLumina option been rejected from the outset?
Just asking?
I think this I just about alternatives to the SL.
OK, I will refrain from saying how superb I have found SL cables to be in my system with these ears, bettering Chord Sarum TA in the case of the IC.
Oops…did I just say that? ![]()
Me, hijacking? Guilty as charged yer 'onner. ![]()
Me too!
Sandbags up, tin hat on ............. incoming! ![]()
Am already nice and cosy in my bunker. ![]()
Didn't mention SL
as which ever direction I go I intend to do the full loom of speaker & interconnect cables, Naim SL do not make all the required cables for a full loom, would rather not have a mix
lyndon
Hope the Tellurium Q Ultra Black RCA-RCA interconnect is as good as the speaker cable. Any experiences with this one?
Had a Chord Epic Analogue and sent it back for a TQ UB (blind buy).
lyndon posted:Didn't mention SL
as which ever direction I go I intend to do the full loom of speaker & interconnect cables, Naim SL do not make all the required cables for a full loom, would rather not have a mix
lyndon
Ah, OK.
I must admit I didn't like the effect of mixing Chord Sarum TA with SL. I do see where you are coming from.
I would imagine Chord do a full loom for your system (or would at least build to order any missing items from their standard list) but am not sure you would get a full loom from Tellurium.
Cheers
N
dave marshall posted:Me too!
Sandbags up, tin hat on ............. incoming!
Strange we feel the need to don tin hats by mentioning a Naim alternative on the Naim forum! ![]()
I thought Naim SL could provide the full loom now? Unless you're talking about the IECs. As for those 2 other options I've never been particularly taken with what I heard. Usually better sonics but less engagement. The only problem I have with Naim SL is the inordinately long run-in time, and I disagree with those who say it's good out of the box. IMO it's not, but eventually...many months down the line ... it 'comes good' and makes sense.
Frank.
I'm not entirely sure whether the OP is thinking about cables before boxes, but it's worth considering that six din to XLR leads would cost about £9,000, which could pay for a 552 with trade in of the 52.
In truth I didn't really understand the original post and so my post focuses purely on the cabling question.
Frank.
Hello Hungry Halibut
yes, I'm very much boxes first
but as I said in the original post I only have one option for each of the boxes so there is nothing to discuss ( statement isn't an option ! )
i started down the chord route back when Naim were adamant that the best thing they've ever heard was NACA 5
lyndon
Didn't think there was a 4-5 pin din
or a 4-4 pin din
lyndon