Naim app update

Everytime I use the app on the IPad it starts to search for rooms until I use the remote control and activate the radio. 

Im so tired of this.....

BR

Henrik

Mr. Jensen posted:

Everytime I use the app on the IPad it starts to search for rooms until I use the remote control and activate the radio. 

Im so tired of this.....

BR

Henrik

Henrik

This thread is for the Android app. There is another thread for the IOS app and you should post there so that Naim can see the problem (not sure they yet believe this a big issue).

best

David

Hi David,

Sorry for the confusion 

BR

Henrik

Mr. Jensen posted:

Hi David,

Sorry for the confusion 

BR

Henrik

Henrik

Absolutely no apologies needed! The two threads aren't very well identified anyway. Naim know about the searching for rooms problem so we can all hope for an update before too long...

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David

Something I've noticed - although it started happening before the latest update -  is that editing metadata with n-Serve causes the edited cd to appear in the 'Last Played' section of the app, even though the cd has not been played.

In addition, but not consistently, files added to the Download folder also show up there, again before being played.

Richard Morris posted:

Something I've noticed - although it started happening before the latest update -  is that editing metadata with n-Serve causes the edited cd to appear in the 'Last Played' section of the app, even though the cd has not been played.

In addition, but not consistently, files added to the Download folder also show up there, again before being played.

This has always been the case for as long as I can remember. There are also differences between the Last Played and Newly Added lists in N-Serve, and the equivalent lists in the Naim app, which on the face of it would seem to make a mockery of the assertion that the streamer/control point can only show the information presented to it by the server.

Chris, in the Naim world it's the streamer that tells the Naim App the information about the media data itself  (once it is playing). On the steamers (as opposed to the file players) the playlist from the Naim app is downloaded to the streamer and played from the streamer memory... and not the Naim app.

Simon-in-Suffolk posted:

Chris, in the Naim world it's the streamer that tells the Naim App the information about the media data itself  (once it is playing). On the steamers (as opposed to the file players) the playlist from the Naim app is downloaded to the streamer and played from the streamer memory... and not the Naim app.

It still strikes me as rather odd that the Naim app can get the Last Played and Recently Added lists wrong, even when the N-Serve app gets them right (using Unitiserve over UPnP to a Naim streamer.)

ChrisSU posted:

Richard Morris posted:

Something I've noticed - although it started happening before the latest update -  is that editing metadata with n-Serve causes the edited cd to appear in the 'Last Played' section of the app, even though the cd has not been played.

In addition, but not consistently, files added to the Download folder also show up there, again before being played.

This has always been the case for as long as I can remember. There are also differences between the Last Played and Newly Added lists in N-Serve, and the equivalent lists in the Naim app, which on the face of it would seem to make a mockery of the assertion that the streamer/control point can only show the information presented to it by the server.

Hi Chris,

The Last Played lists for local playback and UPnP playback are separate entities and so the last played list maintained by the UPnP server will inherently be different to that for the local playback queue.

As far as When browsing UPnP lists the lists are generated in real time by the UPnP server - the UPnP control point / UPnP client scans the network for UPnP servers and lists them. Once a UPnP server is selected then the UPnP server is then solely responsible for what is displayed and it simply issues lists to the UPnP client (which can also include an image if appropriate) with the UPnP Client responding with the item number in the list that has been chosen and the UPnP server then generating either another sub-list to display or a link to a virtual file to play.

Of course the UPnP client / control point could - say - do a Google (or whatever) search for any of the data that is sent to it by the UPnP server ... so for instance lets say that you're browsing or playing "Tango In The Night" by Fleetwood Mac then there's nothing to say that the app can't use the information associated with that album in additional functionality (which is what we do with the album notes function).

Cheers

Phil

Phil Harris posted:

ChrisSU posted:

Richard Morris posted:

Something I've noticed - although it started happening before the latest update -  is that editing metadata with n-Serve causes the edited cd to appear in the 'Last Played' section of the app, even though the cd has not been played.

In addition, but not consistently, files added to the Download folder also show up there, again before being played.

This has always been the case for as long as I can remember. There are also differences between the Last Played and Newly Added lists in N-Serve, and the equivalent lists in the Naim app, which on the face of it would seem to make a mockery of the assertion that the streamer/control point can only show the information presented to it by the server.

Hi Chris,

The Last Played lists for local playback and UPnP playback are separate entities and so the last played list maintained by the UPnP server will inherently be different to that for the local playback queue.

As far as When browsing UPnP lists the lists are generated in real time by the UPnP server - the UPnP control point / UPnP client scans the network for UPnP servers and lists them. Once a UPnP server is selected then the UPnP server is then solely responsible for what is displayed and it simply issues lists to the UPnP client (which can also include an image if appropriate) with the UPnP Client responding with the item number in the list that has been chosen and the UPnP server then generating either another sub-list to display or a link to a virtual file to play.

Of course the UPnP client / control point could - say - do a Google (or whatever) search for any of the data that is sent to it by the UPnP server ... so for instance lets say that you're browsing or playing "Tango In The Night" by Fleetwood Mac then there's nothing to say that the app can't use the information associated with that album in additional functionality (which is what we do with the album notes function).

Cheers

Phil

Hi Phil, thanks for the explanation. What I find a little odd is that I never use local playback on my US, but it still generates a last played list. Not only that, but it is an accurate list of the albums I've played over UPnP, controlled by the Naim app, yet the Naim app last played list is the one that is often incorrect. Bit of a first world problem, and not one I lose sleep over, just seems a bit odd!

Chris