uniticore/ ssd vs hdd

Posted by: French Rooster on 16 March 2017

could anyone try to compare ssd drive inside the core vs hdd drive?  because it is often said that ssd is better...but is it always better?  and the price of ssd samsung pro 1to are around 6 times more expensive than 1to hdd drive... so i don't know if it is worse buying ssd internal drive for the core.  thanks

Posted on: 16 March 2017 by David Hendon

The recommended SSD drive isn't 850 Pro so there is some money you can save for a start.

best

David

Posted on: 16 March 2017 by Chag...

Indeed straight from the site recent Connection Magazine Uniti Core Hints and Tips:  

Which Drive Should I Use?

Choosing a drive for your Uniti Core can be a bit intimidating, but any 2.5” or 3.5” SATA hard or solid state drive will be fine.  We recommend the Seagate Pipeline/Video 2TB hard disks (HDD) or the Samsung 850 EVO 512GB/1TB solid state drive (SSD) - we have found these to provide the best audio performance.  If you are unsure or have any questions, contact the Tech Support team who will be happy to help.

Chag -

Posted on: 16 March 2017 by French Rooster
David Hendon posted:

The recommended SSD drive isn't 850 Pro so there is some money you can save for a start.

best

David

i know, it is seagate hdd or samsung evo 2,5. I am just curious of this comparaison. It is not just a question of money, the seagate 1to is around 100 eur and the evo 1to around 300 eur. I am curious of sound quality compare.

Posted on: 16 March 2017 by French Rooster
Chag... posted:

Indeed straight from the site recent Connection Magazine Uniti Core Hints and Tips:  

Which Drive Should I Use?

Choosing a drive for your Uniti Core can be a bit intimidating, but any 2.5” or 3.5” SATA hard or solid state drive will be fine.  We recommend the Seagate Pipeline/Video 2TB hard disks (HDD) or the Samsung 850 EVO 512GB/1TB solid state drive (SSD) - we have found these to provide the best audio performance.  If you are unsure or have any questions, contact the Tech Support team who will be happy to help.

Chag -

thanks chag, i have already read that. But we don't know which one sounds best, only that it will be fine with both..

Posted on: 16 March 2017 by steve95775

Its simply a matter of how  you want your music collection sored. SSD's are supposedly less prone to failure. Considering how much time, money and effort goes into our music collections, it's up to you to choose how much you value the idea of losing it due to equipment failure.

You should always back up your collection anyway, either with a second drive, or if you have a NAS, use a mirrored RAID array.

SSD's also give faster access but considering the limitations on disc size and how large a decent music collection can be, and the bandwidth required to stream music from a storage drive, I don't see that this is relevant. SSD's are really a bit small.

I would posit that they both sound the same.

Posted on: 16 March 2017 by French Rooster
steve95775 posted:

Its simply a matter of how  you want your music collection sored. SSD's are supposedly less prone to failure. Considering how much time, money and effort goes into our music collections, it's up to you to choose how much you value the idea of losing it due to equipment failure.

You should always back up your collection anyway, either with a second drive, or if you have a NAS, use a mirrored RAID array.

SSD's also give faster access but considering the limitations on disc size and how large a decent music collection can be, and the bandwidth required to stream music from a storage drive, I don't see that this is relevant. SSD's are really a bit small.

I would posit that they both sound the same.

some people have compared the melco n1a( hdd) and the n1zh( ssd) and found the second better sounding. But perhaps the n1zh has other upgrades than just ssd...

The second point is the silence of ssd vs hdd... which translates in better dynamics, natural sound and detail retrieval.  It is what i read and heard only...

Posted on: 17 March 2017 by Mr Happy

On my demo uniticore I started by using an ssd, then after a week switched to hdd as the ssd run out of space. I didn't notice any obvious differences in the sound or performance.

Posted on: 17 March 2017 by Cbr600

The key issue for me is capacity, to get the full music collection on the core. I have installed a 10tb seagate barracuda drive in my core, and works well. Now importing music from various locations.

Posted on: 17 March 2017 by Mike-B
Keler Pierre posted:

...............    The second point is the silence of ssd vs hdd... which translates in better dynamics, natural sound and detail retrieval.  It is what i read and heard only...

  ...    ...  more rarified arctic tree viper oil to lubricate tight wallets,  don't believe all you read - false news & alternative facts         

SSD or HDD or USB or whatever sends data to the renderer buffer, the data frames are verified as transmitted & received intact (that means complete, the same, unchanged) or its retransmitted.  Then it waits in the buffer until needed.        

Posted on: 17 March 2017 by French Rooster
Mike-B posted:
Keler Pierre posted:

...............    The second point is the silence of ssd vs hdd... which translates in better dynamics, natural sound and detail retrieval.  It is what i read and heard only...

  ...    ...  more rarified arctic tree viper oil to lubricate tight wallets,  don't believe all you read - false news & alternative facts         

SSD or HDD or USB or whatever sends data to the renderer buffer, the data frames are verified as transmitted & received intact (that means complete, the same, unchanged) or its retransmitted.  Then it waits in the buffer until needed.        

so the melco hdd and ssd, with a very important price, may seem the same to you?  

Posted on: 17 March 2017 by Mike-B
Keler Pierre posted:

so the melco hdd and ssd, with a very important price, may seem the same to you?  

I don't know what you mean by an important price.  But when I changed a friends NAS from HDD to SSD, there was no noticeable difference in SQ.  Access speed was much improved,  but not SQ.

Posted on: 17 March 2017 by james n
Keler Pierre posted:
some people have compared the melco n1a( hdd) and the n1zh( ssd) and found the second better sounding. But perhaps the n1zh has other upgrades than just ssd.

 

The ZH version has a better power supply, casework etc so not quite comparing apples with apples here. 

Posted on: 17 March 2017 by French Rooster

ok, it is certainly that. 

Posted on: 17 March 2017 by garyi

SSDs do sound better because they have no sound. However to suggest they make your files 'sound' better is well, what is it exactly?

 

Posted on: 17 March 2017 by Bart
garyi posted:

SSDs do sound better because they have no sound. However to suggest they make your files 'sound' better is well, what is it exactly?

 

Cheeky!

Posted on: 18 March 2017 by Huge
garyi posted:

SSDs do sound better because they have no sound.
...

Surely that an oxymoron.

(and I'm not calling you Shirley or calling you an oxidised moron!)