What's going on here?

Clearly you're a secret Core user.......

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David

I've seen it happen once or twice: if I removed / modified a downloaded album via my laptop (rather than via QNAP's web-browser interface) a 'ghost' of a deleted album was still shown in the NAIM app. 

Perhaps this might be applicable here?

OK, here's my "guess" at what's happening. Because Asset has only the album title tag to work from in this view (as opposed to the Artist/Album view) it shows the info/artwork from the first version it comes to and as a blank space will be ahead of a hyphen alphabetically that's where it picks up the artwork etc. 

The solution? Probably to append the soloist's name to the album title to differentiate more clearly than simply adding a space within the album title.

I have had this happen with my DLNA Server on Vortexbox when it shows in the Naim app - it tends to resolve itself after a while; occasionally a re-scan will help, but not always, as per your experience. But as long as the image is in the correct folder, it appears to be self limiting, and resolves...not sure what software quirk is behind it.

HH, as a matter of interest if you click on the "Kennedy" version in the Abum view to see the album details and then go back to the previous screen, does the artwork/artist name change to the correct version?

I agree with SJ that "aggregation by same title" is "winning" in this view. Indeed I exploit this behaviour for multi disc sets that I tagged wrong on initial ripping: removing "Disc 1" etc from the title merges them the way I prefer. (Note I use Minim and MediaStation not Asset, but still...)

A quick test on re-tagging Album Title to differentiate would be easy and reversible and might give a clue about next steps. 

Regards alan

ps - you could also try re-titling the Trevor Pinnock multi disc set with the same single title to see if they collapse to a single entry in this view, sort of as a reciprocal test...

sjbabbey posted:

HH, as a matter of interest if you click on the "Kennedy" version in the Abum view to see the album details and then go back to the previous screen, does the artwork/artist name change to the correct version?

I tried that and there was no change. In the end I resorted to calling them both Vivaldi - The.... but with (Jansen) or (Kennedy) at the end, which now works perfectly. At the same time I changed my five copies of the Goldbergs to show the artist at the end, which also worked. I thought that the position of the hyphen was sufficient but clearly it's not, so I've learned something today. 

Thanks to all for your help. 

although having the correct metadata showing/etc is handy compared with playing vinyl or playing a cd.  but have you forgot that the main streaming focus should be the quality of the output rip BUT naim should have delayed releasing the player until if was fully functioned.  Theres also a risk with any new. product release   from any manufacturer

I'm not sure what you are getting at. 

You could try putting a folder.jpg image of the actual picture you want in the relevant album folder see what that does?

The folders were already there, and showed correctly when the album was actually played. Adding the artist name to the album title fixed it. It's odd, though, that I have three versions of Bach's Art of Fugue, and all are titled precisely the same, without the artist in the title, and they are all correctly shown. 

I've recently learned, whilst using Metadatics, there is a metadata tag called 'grouping'. Perhaps this is one is being used for your Bach's albums?

I also noticed that UnitiServe rips all classical music in a peculiar way. So the title of the album always contains a composer's surname as in 'Vivaldi- Four Seasons'.
This way when browsing via 'genre' albums are still easy to find.
So whenever I buy classical downloads, for consistency, I now re-tag them the same way as UnitiServe rips.

Might be interesting to compare tags, as others have suggested. Use of "SortAlbum" rather than "Album" would give the behaviour of the Bach Fugues vs the Vivaldi Concertos. I don't use Asset, but cascading rules to sort and display are common and, if not known in detail, can lead to not really understanding the rules for what gets shown, and in what order, etc. (Easy to see if any titles starting with "The" show up alphabetically under the second word; or, for books say, if a trilogy is grouped together and doesn't appear alphabetically sensible based on the display title). 

Regards alan

HH, there are actually 3 different "artist" tags i.e. ARTIST, ALBUM ARTIST and ALBUMARTIST (without a space between the words). Is it possible that your Bach albums are using a different tag version than the Vivaldi albums? Otherwise, perhaps the Bach albums have an additional tag such as SOLOIST.

I shall have a look later. Both of the Vivaldi miscreants were ripped with a UnitiServe from cd and only have an artist tag. I could try adding album artist with dbpoweramp and removing the artist name from the album title and seeing what happens. 

audio1946 posted:

although having the correct metadata showing/etc is handy compared with playing vinyl or playing a cd.  but have you forgot that the main streaming focus should be the quality of the output rip BUT naim should have delayed releasing the player until if was fully functioned.  Theres also a risk with any new. product release   from any manufacturer

Welcome to this thread.  It's not about the Naim Core. It's about HH's use of Asset server on a QNAP nas, along with the Naim App.

That said . . .

The "main focus" of music replay surely includes being able to find the music one wants to (re)play.  The best turntable in the world is rather unsatisfying to use if all of your LP's are in plain brown cardboard sleeves, with no labels.

sjbabbey posted:

HH, there are actually 3 different "artist" tags i.e. ARTIST, ALBUM ARTIST and ALBUMARTIST (without a space between the words). Is it possible that your Bach albums are using a different tag version than the Vivaldi albums? Otherwise, perhaps the Bach albums have an additional tag such as SOLOIST.

That's correct, I've struggled with this also ... it's easy to correct with MP3Tag ...