LP Hole Drill?

Posted by: Judge on 02 April 2017

I have a number of LPs where the hole is too small.  Because my ancient RD40 has a concave platter I have to use the screw down clamp, which firmly wedges the record onto the spindle.  Removing it lifts the whole suspended body of the turntable, which gets bounced about as I wiggle the record to free it.  The record also gets bent in the process!

I'm not enjoying that.

Now this being a hi-fi forum, I know that relative to our means we've all spent ridiculous sums on bits of wire and other upgrades, but has anyone found an alternative to the £40 LP Drill which amounts to a 7.3mm drill mounted in a handle?

Posted on: 02 April 2017 by Klyde

Someone on the Skottish forum has used a 7mm drill without problems.

Posted on: 02 April 2017 by sheffieldgraham

On the few occasions when the hole is too small I have used a pair of sharp scissors. Hold the narrowest scissor blade vertically and place the lp on it. Rotate the lp once or twice. A little swarf is produced and easily brushed off. Check the lp on the turntable spindle and repeat if necessary using the opposite side of the lp. It's always worked for me and doesn't produce any eccentricity.

Posted on: 02 April 2017 by Pcd

Judge, look on the flee bay site tapered hand held reamer about £4.00 or use a pair of scissors as Graham has mentioned.

Posted on: 02 April 2017 by Drewy

How about rolling up a piece of sandpaper and spinning the vinyl on it.

Posted on: 02 April 2017 by sheffieldgraham
Drewy posted:

How about rolling up a piece of sandpaper and spinning the vinyl on it.

Problem is you get sand particles on the lp. Not good.

Posted on: 02 April 2017 by Drewy
sheffieldgraham posted:
Drewy posted:

How about rolling up a piece of sandpaper and spinning the vinyl on it.

Problem is you get sand particles on the lp. Not good.

Good point, I did think of that after posting it, thought I'd just give it a rinse afterwards.

Posted on: 02 April 2017 by Hook
sheffieldgraham posted:

On the few occasions when the hole is too small I have used a pair of sharp scissors. Hold the narrowest scissor blade vertically and place the lp on it. Rotate the lp once or twice. A little swarf is produced and easily brushed off. Check the lp on the turntable spindle and repeat if necessary using the opposite side of the lp. It's always worked for me and doesn't produce any eccentricity.

I do the same. It usually takes very little shaving to go from too tight to perfect, so be careful not to overdo it.

Posted on: 02 April 2017 by joerand

In about twenty seconds of googling I found a 7.3-mm drill bit for < $5 on Ebay (shipping included). If the handle is an issue I suppose you could wrap some duct tape around the upper shank for a better grip. Alternatively you could use the drill bit itself to drill-out a blank handle (wooden dowel?) then glue it in.

Posted on: 03 April 2017 by tonym
sheffieldgraham posted:

On the few occasions when the hole is too small I have used a pair of sharp scissors. Hold the narrowest scissor blade vertically and place the lp on it. Rotate the lp once or twice. A little swarf is produced and easily brushed off. Check the lp on the turntable spindle and repeat if necessary using the opposite side of the lp. It's always worked for me and doesn't produce any eccentricity.

Yep, that's what I do too, works fine.

Posted on: 03 April 2017 by Christopher_M
tonym posted:
sheffieldgraham posted:

On the few occasions when the hole is too small I have used a pair of sharp scissors. Hold the narrowest scissor blade vertically and place the lp on it. Rotate the lp once or twice. A little swarf is produced and easily brushed off. Check the lp on the turntable spindle and repeat if necessary using the opposite side of the lp. It's always worked for me and doesn't produce any eccentricity.

Yep, that's what I do too, works fine.

Me too.

C.

Posted on: 03 April 2017 by Motel Blues

I find the contoured body of a Parker ballpoint pen is ideal for the job.

Posted on: 03 April 2017 by u77033103172058601

Change to a Roksan, Xerxes or TMS? A removable centre spindle and a better aural experience.

Posted on: 03 April 2017 by tonym
Nick from Suffolk posted:

Change to a Roksan, Xerxes or TMS? A removable centre spindle and a better aural experience.

But if the hole in the record's  too small, won't the removable centre spindle become the unmovable centre spundle?

Posted on: 03 April 2017 by Eoink
Nick from Suffolk posted:

Change to a Roksan, Xerxes or TMS? A removable centre spindle and a better aural experience.

As a TMS user, I use the spindle to centre the record, otherwise it tends to wobble.

Posted on: 03 April 2017 by bluedog

The writing end of a Biro works nicely - it's cone shaped so one pushes it in and turns it until the hole is slightly expanded (don't want it too big). If it's still too small repeat.

Posted on: 03 April 2017 by Sten

Biro works well for me too. It usually doesn't take a lot to make it big enough and that's what is good about the biro - with scissors or a drillbit there is the risk of going too far .........

Posted on: 03 April 2017 by Paul Davies
Sten posted:

Biro works well for me too. It usually doesn't take a lot to make it big enough and that's what is good about the biro - with scissors or a drillbit there is the risk of going too far .........

Another endorsement for the biro trick. No swarf or particles to deal with.

Posted on: 03 April 2017 by christoph

I use a very sharp carpet knive and Turn it around once of twice, that works for me. Christoph

Posted on: 04 April 2017 by Judge
joerand posted:

In about twenty seconds of googling I found a 7.3-mm drill bit for < $5 on Ebay (shipping included). If the handle is an issue I suppose you could wrap some duct tape around the upper shank for a better grip. Alternatively you could use the drill bit itself to drill-out a blank handle (wooden dowel?) then glue it in.

Doh! Such an obvious thing to try!  

I bought a 7.3mm drill bit for £2.75 with free delivery.  I just didn't think drill bits came in 0.1mm increments.

Thanks for the input.  

I have a chuck with a hex fitting, that I can fit into a small socket set to give a T handle if I need more cutting torque.

Posted on: 04 April 2017 by johnlh

In the US there are nominal size drills, number drills and letter drills. An example of a nominal drill would be a 1/8 drill which measures .125, the closest number drill (#30) is .1285 and the closest letter drill is an L which is also .1285.

http://www.smithbearing.com/im...-FractionalChart.pdf

 

 

Posted on: 05 April 2017 by fatcat
Judge posted:
joerand posted:

In about twenty seconds of googling I found a 7.3-mm drill bit for < $5 on Ebay (shipping included). If the handle is an issue I suppose you could wrap some duct tape around the upper shank for a better grip. Alternatively you could use the drill bit itself to drill-out a blank handle (wooden dowel?) then glue it in.

Doh! Such an obvious thing to try!  

I bought a 7.3mm drill bit for £2.75 with free delivery.  I just didn't think drill bits came in 0.1mm increments.

Thanks for the input.  

I have a chuck with a hex fitting, that I can fit into a small socket set to give a T handle if I need more cutting torque.

I would't recommend using a drill to enlarge the hole, I doubt the hole would be centred correctly or square.

I'd use a 3 - 12mm taperded reamer. Alternate removing a small amount of from either side.

Use the drill you've bought as a gauge.

 

 

Posted on: 05 April 2017 by Hook

I like the reamer idea, but I've decided to try a new method. It involves a Remington Model 700 Mountain rifle with .280 caliber bullets (7.2mm in width).  With a 4-power Leopold scope, am thinking 50 meters will work nicely.

And yes, my post is 4 days late.