How do you rip/ sort files on NAS

dbpoweramp and a robotic ripper box

@Stover

I went from a Synology NAS to a QNAP one primarily because it had support for Assent upnp. The Asset software is written by the same guy who developed dbpoweramp - so if you're using dbpoweramp to rip the CDs anyway...

I rip to lossless flac files.

An interesting side effect is that the unitiserv sounds better when it sources files from the qnap. At this point, asset upnp on QNAP vs. Unitserv is very close. More of a preference thing - and it might entirely be placebo. In any case, I'm still holding on to the Unitiserv.

Question for you: I saw a forum post recently where you indicated you preferred the Ovator over the Kudos Super 20s. Your profile shows you now have the Kudos Super 20s. Just wondering what changed. Also, what are the dimensions of your living room.

I ask since I'm considering auditioning the 400s (but own the Super 20s).

jon honeyball posted:

dbpoweramp and a robotic ripper box

Not sure what you mean about a robotic rip`box, but my guess would be a convenient ripper? I will try out DB poweramp.

Thanks.

It sounds as though it's the upnp server that is the issue. The Synology media server should be fine, unless you are transcoding FLAC to WAV. MinimServer is probably the best to use on Synology, and more flexible than Naim's own server as installed on the UnitiServe. DBpoweramp is ideal to rip the CDs and ensure the metadata is right. 

MangoMonkey posted:

@Stover

I went from a Synology NAS to a QNAP one primarily because it had support for Assent upnp. The Asset software is written by the same guy who developed dbpoweramp - so if you're using dbpoweramp to rip the CDs anyway...

I rip to lossless flac files.

An interesting side effect is that the unitiserv sounds better when it sources files from the qnap. At this point, asset upnp on QNAP vs. Unitserv is very close. More of a preference thing - and it might entirely be placebo. In any case, I'm still holding on to the Unitiserv.

Question for you: I saw a forum post recently where you indicated you preferred the Ovator over the Kudos Super 20s. Your profile shows you now have the Kudos Super 20s. Just wondering what changed. Also, what are the dimensions of your living room.

I ask since I'm considering auditioning the 400s (but own the Super 20s).

I will take the Asset upnp into consideration MM and try to find out if I have to replace the NAS also to get it right.

The Ovator vs Super 20 review from me a few years ago is not that reliable. The room I used at that time was really bad so impressions are based on that. In that room S20 was softer sounding, compared to S400 which was shouty in some way. I was not ready to take the cost at that time and S400 are very live in it`s presentation, I liked that. What I discovered after some time, was I was listening to good recordings only due to they behavior and to make story short, I purchased Titans.

In my new room demo S20 works very well, only with small acoustic treatment. I have not tried S400 in this room and not tempted to either. Both rooms are about 28m2, but very different in shape. First one filled with plasterboard and squarish. The loft have wooden panel all over, angled ceiling on one side, more narrow and quite airy in the back, due to a stairway.

Stover

Hungryhalibut posted:

It sounds as though it's the upnp server that is the issue. The Synology media server should be fine, unless you are transcoding FLAC to WAV. MinimServer is probably the best to use on Synology, and more flexible than Naim's own server as installed on the UnitiServe. DBpoweramp is ideal to rip the CDs and ensure the metadata is right. 

HH. When you look up your music from the NAS, what kind of selection do you use in the Naim APP? By;  all music, artist etc....if you just want to scroll down your albums. How I have set it up, it seems I have to be aware of how I sort metadata, I cannot use it as settings are made.

I must tell, I don`t find this neurotic at all. I enjoy music from Tidal and vinyl as never before, but I miss my CD`s

If I want to see all the albums I just choose 'album'. I rarely do this as there are so many. I will more often choose artist/album or genre. I gave the albums in about ten genres, so if I fancy chamber music, I'll choose that, or jazz vocal or whatever. I also use the 'newest albums' to find the latest CD rips or downloads. Note that this is using Asset. Minim will do the same, but does not have the latest albums feature. 

Thanks HH. I will continue learning and have your comments in mind.

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Hungryhalibut posted:

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Note that this is using Asset. Minim will do the same, but does not have the latest albums feature. 

With MinimServer, I use a custom index (incdate) to set the date when the file has been incorporated into my collection. 

nbpf posted:

Hungryhalibut posted:

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Note that this is using Asset. Minim will do the same, but does not have the latest albums feature. 

With MinimServer, I use a custom index (incdate) to set the date when the file has been incorporated into my collection. 

Using  Synology NASes, I just use Media Server, this has a Recently Added feature using the Advanced Style default menu.

jon honeyball posted:

dbpoweramp and a robotic ripper box

So I did, removed ALAC and purchased the much more convenient Dbpoweramp (after some trial days). Still using the mediaserver in Synology and use it sorted by "album" so far. I like the albums to appear by as few taps as possible Time will show if Qnap/ Asset is needed for a even better interface.

Eoink posted:

nbpf posted:

Hungryhalibut posted:

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Note that this is using Asset. Minim will do the same, but does not have the latest albums feature. 

With MinimServer, I use a custom index (incdate) to set the date when the file has been incorporated into my collection. 

Using  Synology NASes, I just use Media Server, this has a Recently Added feature using the Advanced Style default menu.

Will check out this, thanks.

I've just started ripping my CDs to my first NAS (dbPoweramp to SynologyDS216j) and wondered about this issue.  However I tend to think in terms of who I want to listen to rather than what, so Album Artist is most obvious to me then Album.  It's given me bit of a problem with classical music that I haven't solved yet - Composer rather than album artist is what I want to catalogue and search by, but it leaves album artist as "unknown" which is messy.   Any guidance?

I use dBpoweramp & have a Synology DS214.    Ripping CD's is easy enough with non-classical as albums are invariably by the artist.  The problem is with classical,  the album can be listed by composer, conductor, orchestra or soloist.   You will need to learn to edit metadata to make it the way you want it & although easy enough to learn,  with a lot of classical albums it's gonna take time to wade through it.  I stopped trying to be too clever with this & simply put (drag & drop) albums into individual composer folders, or if it's a compilation I list it by whatever the album is listed by, the album name or the artist or orchestra.   The media server browse by options will add browsing searches

I ripped all my CD's back in 2014 & rarely rip these days.  But one thing I learned after weeks of ripping was it would have been better to rip to PC/Mac/laptop rather than direct to NAS as I ended up copying most all the classical albums back to laptop/PC to do the metadata editing,  that way I was able to work on them remotely from the NAS in my own time & if I screwed it up I just grabbed another copy - & for me that was quite common in the 'learning' stage.  Then when its edited I just drag & drop into the various composer or the compilation folders. 

And I will present an alternative view - I still use my UnitiServe SSD to stream the music from my NAS.

MinimServer is installed as a backup, for the day when my 4th (or is it 5th??) UnitiServe dies.
If that ever happens I will most likely buy Core - I just love the simplicity of ripping CDs, creating MP3s for my iPod and the whole fuss-free database management.

I'm with Mike on this. I do my ripping on a PC and get everything tagged to my liking before making a backup, them send to NAS. 

Once you have a workflow that is logical to you it isn't a chore. Preferring WAV, the HDX didn't save me much labour ultimately. I had to tag it all again properly when I switched to a NAS based server. I prefer to do it myself because I know it's been done properly.

Rip with dBPoweramp on a PC / I don't sort files on the NAS (there's no point whatsoever in doing it).

Interesting posts. When I insert the cd I edit metadata directly in DBP, before ripping the cd. Especially classical albums are tricky so to find out how I want metadata presented, I have reripped some classical cd`s to experiment with. I`m not sure if  Vivaldi or Neville Marriner should show up yet.

I`m far from ordering a Core yet, even if I clearly can see where it would fit in. As said, I will rip some more cd`s and see how it works out.