CD555

Posted by: Mike-B on 12 April 2017

Has CD555 been withdrawn?,  it's no longer on the www product list. 

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by Allante93

Way back in 2007, when Naim debuted it's Reference CDP, it Retailed ~ 30K USD, including PS.

If one still fancies a Reference CDP, manufactured by Naim, bargains can be had, the 2nd hand market!

Ebay, Audiogon, Canuck, I have noticed some local Naim Dealers, who have utilizes these sites to sale their demo units!

Allante93!

 

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by jfritzen

2007 was also the year when Linn debuted it's reference network streamer, the Linn Klimax DS. And that KDS can still be used today, with the current firmware with Space Optimisation, Tidal, Qobuz and all other features that were developed in the past 10 years. That is far-sightedness (if that's the correct term).

 

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by Sloop John B

As Fr. Jack would say.  "Feck". 

Sold my 555 for a song, now they will just rise in value. 

 

Glad  to hear Naim are making more products than ever though as I had feared the delay with the new uniti series could seriously dent cash flow. 

 

.sjb

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by stuart.ashen

Brontosaurus? What does that make my LP12 then? Perhaps it's time for a return of the Aro?

Yes, I know. Dream on....

Stu

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by Adam Zielinski

I think HH was referreing to a fact that the CD section on the Naim website is advertised by an extinct player. Just like the London Zoo - there are hardly any Dinosaurs running around there

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by Richard Dane

Hardly extinct.  I'm sure just about all of them are still alive and well and in regular use.

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by Adam Zielinski
Richard Dane posted:

Hardly extinct.  I'm sure just about all of them are still alive and well and in regular use.

True

Should have written 'no longer available'

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by thebigfredc

I don't own a CD555 and have never heard one.

This doesn't prevent me from lusting after one though. There is something about the design and build quality which is very appealing. I was a bit interested in used one once but even at £4k plus PSU it was too much for my pockets.

Ray

 

 

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by The Strat (Fender)

On the back of all the technological advances in the new Uniti range will the NDX/NDS be upgraded and what of a 500 series or Statement network player?    Or is streaming such a dumbed down musical experience........well sik purse sows ear..............??!!

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by Allante93
jfritzen posted:

2007 was also the year when Linn debuted it's reference network streamer, the Linn Klimax DS. And that KDS can still be used today, with the current firmware with Space Optimisation, Tidal, Qobuz and all other features that were developed in the past 10 years. That is far-sightedness (if that's the correct term).

 

Yeah, but do they manufacture Aktiv Speakers, and are they familiar with technologies that try produce and preserve Exakt digital signals as they relate to Active Systems?

Furthermore, do they collaborate with other Speaker manufactures, like the likes of Kudos, Kef, JVC, and B & W to increase their Market Share?

Be Careful Jfritzen, this is a Naim Forum!

Allante93!

 

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by Allante93
Richard Dane posted:

Hardly extinct.  I'm sure just about all of them are still alive and well and in regular use.

+2

Just like the Ovator's 400s, 600s, and 800s!

Allante93!

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by ChrisSU
Christopher_M posted:
Richard Dane posted:

The dedicated areas of the favtory required to build the CD555 are valuable space. And space is at a premium as the factory can't easily increase in size. And Naim is building and selling more equipment than ever before...

This made me wonder about the possibilty of a new, bigger, purpose built factory on the edge of Salisbury. Built with Focal's money perhaps. Hopefully senior Naim bods are having a good look at it.

I expect they need the space to store all those new Unitis they can't sell! 

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by Phil Harris
ChrisSU posted:
Christopher_M posted:
Richard Dane posted:

The dedicated areas of the favtory required to build the CD555 are valuable space. And space is at a premium as the factory can't easily increase in size. And Naim is building and selling more equipment than ever before...

This made me wonder about the possibilty of a new, bigger, purpose built factory on the edge of Salisbury. Built with Focal's money perhaps. Hopefully senior Naim bods are having a good look at it.

I expect they need the space to store all those new Unitis they can't sell! 

Holy thread diversion batman!

Phil

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by Emre

Better this Way!  Can not find can not Buy! So my children can eat and go to school 

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by The Strat (Fender)

No No No Emre - you'll regret - you must do it - I'm sure they'd make one to order.

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by jfritzen
Allante93 posted:
jfritzen posted:

2007 was also the year when Linn debuted it's reference network streamer, the Linn Klimax DS. And that KDS can still be used today, with the current firmware with Space Optimisation, Tidal, Qobuz and all other features that were developed in the past 10 years. That is far-sightedness (if that's the correct term).

 

Yeah, but do they manufacture Aktiv Speakers, and are they familiar with technologies that try produce and preserve Exakt digital signals as they relate to Active Systems?

Furthermore, do they collaborate with other Speaker manufactures, like the likes of Kudos, Kef, JVC, and B & W to increase their Market Share?

Be Careful Jfritzen, this is a Naim Forum!

Allante93!

To soothe the Naim forum I could add that I'm not so much a fan of Linn's amps and their speakers. I found and still find the Naim counterparts more involving.

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by J.N.

It had to happen. That, BTW is the title of a James McMurtry album.

Boring old two-channel audio is periodically reinvented by the industry. It's ultimately about commerce to reinvigorate sales of equipment and music, as opposed to sound-quality. Some of us audiophiles here think that vinyl sounds better than CD. And I don't hear streaming necessarily sounding any better than a good CD player.

An up to spec 50 year old Revox A77 running a good recording can play in the same ball-park with the best source equipment of today. It's just a bit tricky to get in one's pocket.

Careful with that marketing hype Eugene (not the one in Oregon BTW).

John.

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by French Rooster
Emre posted:

Better this Way!  Can not find can not Buy! So my children can eat and go to school 

why not a dcs rossini cd player/ dac/ streamer, with an dcs clock. I have heard before the dcs puccini and found it very interesting.  

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by Simon-in-Suffolk
james n posted:
The Strat (Fender) posted:

More seriously I wonder if they might introduce a high end transport based on a Teac mechanism to work with the nDAC and streamers.   

Isn't that the role of the Core. Takes the issue of real time CD read out, out of the equation so one less problem to deal with. 

James I don't there is an issue of 'real time' CD, as down very low level the CD audio is extracted the same as for a CDP as for a rip for a streamer, and the clever design of Red Book allows incredibly effective data extraction and recovery to take place. Essentially if there is an error at all it will be for the most part a tiny silent gap or a skip. Yes if the CD is damaged then you can perform some non real time brute force data extraction methods with a ripper, but I'd be surprised if it were error free and I guess most of us don't listen to damaged discs most the time.

 

Posted on: 13 April 2017 by Simon-in-Suffolk
J.N. posted:

Boring old two-channel audio is periodically reinvented by the industry. It's ultimately about commerce to reinvigorate sales of equipment and music, as opposed to sound-quality. Some of us audiophiles here think that vinyl sounds better than CD. And I don't hear streaming necessarily sounding any better than a good CD player.

Exactly a streamer is simply a type of CD transport when streaming CD media... an electronic version of the old CD jukebox selection transports that were the fashion in the early 90s

Posted on: 14 April 2017 by Emre
Keler Pierre posted:
Emre posted:

Better this Way!  Can not find can not Buy! So my children can eat and go to school 

why not a dcs rossini cd player/ dac/ streamer, with an dcs clock. I have heard before the dcs puccini and found it very interesting.  

Cd555 is not only a cd player for me it is also something I always dreamed and now maybe I can afford, I am sure there are other top of the range cd players around, when the day comes that I can no longer use my cd2x I will be looking around

I am also interested to hear hegel mohican, new marantz and new bryston cd players, pure 16/44 machines except marantz

If you go beyond 16/ 44 it will be interesting to hear chord blue2+Dave combo soon

Posted on: 14 April 2017 by rsch

Well done, at Naim,  got of loudspeakers range for start , CD555 now, one the most iconic products in the range.

It was not better to delete some    streamer/ all in one  in  a quite redundant range now ? Just my p. worth 

Regards

Roberto

Posted on: 14 April 2017 by tef

Funny to see the "streaming vs physical formats"- discussion coming back in every other thread on this forum almost. It's a pity that Naim has decided to stop CD555 production. In hindsight  it might have been better if they'd decided to continue the CDS3 instead of the 555. With the CDX2 as best CD-player the credibility of Naim as a serious high end brand is diminishing fast. There seems to be a redirection to a more commercial path imo. Production of machines like the Muso (Qb) underline that. Seizing production of a truly classy machine to make room in the factory for the production of Muso's..... That could the beginning of the end of a fine brand. Let's hope I'm wrong.

Posted on: 14 April 2017 by james n
tef posted:

 Production of machines like the Muso (Qb) underline that. Seizing production of a truly classy machine to make room in the factory for the production of Muso's..... That could the beginning of the end of a fine brand. Let's hope I'm wrong.

As respected as the 555 is (was), the market for 21k odd (with PSU) CD players must be quite limited these days so from a commercial perspective it makes sense. 

Posted on: 14 April 2017 by leni v

Still majority of us clasic music lovers use cd players as main source . So maybe in future we ll have to look elsewhere. Anyway also abare cdx2 was never agreat match fi clasic and broque music.so what about  cdx3