Dog shit!!!

Of course, some of the problem is down to what dogs are fed.  Many commercially available dog foods are bulked out and contain very little animal bone, hence the resulting poos are bulky and no longer go white after a few days.  If you change a dogs diet to raw food then in a few days there's a noticeable change to their waste product - there's much less of it, it's firm, compact, and turns to white dust within the week, thanks to the high bone content.  We feed our Lurchers raw chicken (which they love) and any inexpensive raw meat (beef or lamb usually) that's going from the local butchers. I'm convinced that this is what keeps them so fit and healthy and, of course, their poos are just a minor inconvenience when we're up in town at the park.

p.s. for anyone worried about dogs eating chicken bones, raw bones are fine, and are in fact very good for them.  It's cooked bones of any kind that can cause problems and should never be given to your dog.

Very interesting Richard, as what I had always been told is that chicken bones were strictly verboten, but say a beef bone was OK, because the chicken bone would splinter and cause GI problems. Can you elaborate more on the apparent morphological change that takes place in cooking?

Awesome thread this.

DrMark posted:

Very interesting Richard, as what I had always been told is that chicken bones were strictly verboten, but say a beef bone was OK, because the chicken bone would splinter and cause GI problems. Can you elaborate more on the apparent morphological change that takes place in cooking?

Raw chicken bones are fine - though you do have to be aware that a lot of commercially available chicken can harbour bacteria.

As for the changes ... just try it DrMark ... try cutting / breaking a chicken bone before its cooked and after and you can see how the cooked one splinters into shards.

Never thought I would live to see dog shit spun in a positive light but it seems there is a good deal of affection for the white stuff that used to be common years ago. 

I shall add it to Space Hoppers, Clackers and It's a Knockout as 70s phenomena we can probably do without. 

Hungryhalibut posted:

I'm not sure dog shit in bags is a hot political topic...

Does nobody else walk on footpaths? Does nobody else wonder whose brain is so tiny that they hang shit in trees and expect it to disappear? Does it not irritate anyone but me?

Hi Hungryhalibut,

I am with you on this one. I live in London, and in my borough there are fines for dog owners whose dog's (or dogs') are fouling the streets. Nevertheless, a similar behaviour can be observed in my street, i.e. small black plastic bags of dog poo neatly positioned next to a tree. If somebody is already bagging their dog's poo, how much more effort iis there in carrying the poo bag to the nearest bin and dump it?

Eloise posted:

DrMark posted:

Very interesting Richard, as what I had always been told is that chicken bones were strictly verboten, but say a beef bone was OK, because the chicken bone would splinter and cause GI problems. Can you elaborate more on the apparent morphological change that takes place in cooking?

Raw chicken bones are fine - though you do have to be aware that a lot of commercially available chicken can harbour bacteria.

As for the changes ... just try it DrMark ... try cutting / breaking a chicken bone before its cooked and after and you can see how the cooked one splinters into shards.

It never ceases to amaze me that our dogs (a labrador & border terrier) will get upset stomachs from eating anything other than their normal dried dog food (including uncooked bones or doggie treats) yet when running out in the fields hereabouts will happily scoff the festering, rotting corpses of various deceased animals and birds, horses and cat's poo, & the bits of manure the farmer's tractor has dropped on the lane.

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the_third_mind posted:

Hi

I would like to contribute to this threa with a photo. I have inserted the BB code from Flickr with dimensions but all i get is the outline of a square frame. Can any one advise please.

 

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Am I the only person hoping that your efforts remain unsuccessful? 

the_third_mind posted:

Hi

I would like to contribute to this threa with a photo. I have inserted the BB code from Flickr with dimensions but all i get is the outline of a square frame. Can any one advise please.

 

Thank you

Well, that all depends what the picture is! (PS, you're not really the notorious "the_turd_mind" by any chance?)

I am and i claim by £5 - a obtuse link to Chalky White (see above post on 70's dog excrement) - my photo would not offend

Our local council has, to its credit, put up 'please take it home' notices on trees in some of the more heavily used footpaths. They have also appealed to dog owners in their newspaper. I'm sure it's only a very few people who do this, but what can be done to stop it. 

On the Cyclists!!!! thread mention was made of seizing and crushing the bikes of those cyclists who delay motorists. I thought that was a bit extreme, but it could be applied to the dogs of owners who hang their shit in the trees. I'm sure it would only need to happen once....

I had thought of hanging a laminated message saying 'who do you think is going to take this home?' next to the bag of shit, but then that's even more mess in the countryside. You'd think that if someone hangs it up on one of their regular walks that they'd soon realise that it wasn't going to miraculously disappear by itself without human intervention. 

One good thing about this thread is that when you look at the Forum front page you get sensible titles in the music room, hifi corner and streaming audio (sensible but often dull) and Dog Shit!!!! In the padded cell...

HH - are you suggesting crushing the dogs or the owners - I suggest the latter.

Funnily enough a little while ago when driving home I saw a lady dutifully placing poo bag in the provided bin and for the rest of the journey thought I would try and observe how many scoop bins that were.  Obviously driving I had to focus on other stuff but I reckon there are 5 x as many poo scoop bins as there are post boxes in Bucks.

On the subject of feeding your dog raw food - definitely a good thing in my book - it takes a few days for the dogs digestion to adjust so you need to commit for at least a week before making judgements. 

Yes, do be aware of bacteria. Your dog should be fine but you need to be clean and careful with humans and properly wash and clean areas and equipment used for preparing raw meat. 

I also include vegetables like grated carrot and grated apple. Do avoid onions though and especially garlic. And mixing the veggies with eggs goes down well too.

Yes, it costs a bit more than processed dog food, but not that mych more really, and when you find out what really goes into that food, and just how much profit is being made, well, you wouldn't feed it to your dog...

If your ever unfortunate enough to walk in some, I have found from experience that the firm ones are the worst.  Often more greasy, more smellier and more difficult to remove.

TOBYJUG posted:

If your ever unfortunate enough to walk in some, I have found from experience that the firm ones are the worst.  Often more greasy, more smellier and more difficult to remove.

Nice.

I still think mowing over cat poo is worse (mainly as i'm usually wearing wellies when any dog poo / foot incidents occur).

DrMark posted:

Very interesting Richard, as what I had always been told is that chicken bones were strictly verboten, but say a beef bone was OK, because the chicken bone would splinter and cause GI problems. Can you elaborate more on the apparent morphological change that takes place in cooking?

The reason they become brittle and shatter into sharp shards is due to the denaturing of the protein during the cooking.  Bone is a mixture of calcite (CaCO₃), apatite (Ca₅(PO₄)₃(F,Cl,OH)) and protein.  The protein toughens the bone and increases tensile strength (it's stronger and more resilient before cooking), the inorganic mineral crystals provide compressive strength.

Too add to all this shit.

It seems to be better now than in the 1980's on pavements in my town.I remember there was alot more to avoid.

A real eye opener was visiting Le Toquet in France in the early 1990's.Nice resort quite classy but I couldn't get over how much dog poo was about.It was literally every 5 m on the pavements.An absolute nightmare to negotiate.Maybe it's changed with the French and their dogs.I don't know but it was grim.

I am a catty person and love them or loathe them at least they make an effort to bury it unlike most other creatures

Tabby cat posted:

 

at least they make an effort to bury it unlike most other creatures

Mostly not in their own garden 

Hungryhalibut posted:

Our local council has, to its credit, put up 'please take it home' notices on trees in some of the more heavily used footpaths...

 

If they won't even take a bag home how do they expect them to take a whole tree?

Joking aside. Our old Old English Sheepdog once ate a pound of builders putty whilst they were away at lunch. White sh1te all over the garden for a week.

G

Arf, arf! Builders' putty, poor dog. At least it didn't eat the putty knife as well. 

My mates dog eat his girlfriends knickers whilst he was giving her one, and threw them up 2 days later in front of his parents.

Nothing to do with shit but a great true story.

Karl

JamieWednesday posted:

Blame the cyclists. If it wasn't for them, dogs could shit in the cycle lanes.

It's worse than that. It is actually cyclists' shit that is in those bags.

Richard Dane posted:

On the subject of feeding your dog raw good - definitely a good thing in my book - it takes a few days for the dogs digestion to adjust so you need to commit for at least a week before making judgements. 

Yes, do be aware of bacteria. Your dog should be fine but you need to be clean and careful with humans and properly wash and clean areas and equipment used for preparing raw meat. 

I also include vegetables like grated carrot and grated apple. Do avoid onions though and especially garlic. And mixing the veggies with eggs goes down well too.

Yes, it costs a bit more than processed dog food, but not that mych more really, and when you find out what really goes into that food, and just how much profit is being made, well, you wouldn't feed it to your dog...

We feed a lot of raw. They eat it as frozen blocks. Doggy popsicles!