Chord Sarum T

Chris Dolan posted:

bdnyc posted:

What is "not what you might expect" about this cable?    What role in your system will it be playing?    

Hi Bruce - as Dave J said it's a Sarum T mains cable for the Radikal powering my LP12 / Urika 

Chris,

is the optional super slimline IEC plug specification as good as [or better than] the standard porky pig fitment?

Debs

Would the 'porky' plug fit into the socket on the Klimax Radikal? I assumed that's why Chris has a slimline version. 

Clive B posted

Oh go on, Chris! Go on!

If you insist  Still acclimatising to the T at the moment 

naim_nymph posted:

is the optional super slimline IEC plug specification as good as [or better than] the standard porky pig fitment? 

 

I would suspect that standard phat plug is better but, as Clive says, it does not fit the Klimax Radikal.

I did do a phat plug Sarum Tuned ARAY power cable v Powerline comparison on an Akurate Radikal a few years ago, and preferred the Chord, but not enough to buy it.

Chris,

a couple of years ago i compared my naim powerline vs standard Linn supplied lead vs ubiquitous cheapo computer kettle lead on my then Akurate Radikal; and noticed no difference what-so-ever : )

However, the thing about the Klimax radikal is one can only compare leads which come with a slimline IEC plug; which exempts any audiophile quality power lines that usually come equipped with power improved special posh porky pig IEC plugs. This is why i question the slimline plug in your pic, it looks in your above picture  [albeit in the wrapper]  like a very typical standard and ordinary IEC plug which may compromise the performance and ability of the Sarum T power lead compared to one with the proper job (?) 

Debs

Not sure I can agree with that, the powerline is quite an improvement over the standard Naim power cable.

I note that's not what you compared it to though.

analogmusic posted:

Not sure I can agree with that, the powerline is quite an improvement over the standard Naim power cable.

I note that's not what you compared it to though.

My system comprises of 3 naim power supplies and 1 Linn Klimax Radical; which totals the need for 4 mains connections but i only have 2 naim powerlines.

Having tried many configurations i find the best way that works on my system is using the two powerlines for the 552 and 500, and the CDS and Linn Rad can simply make do [for the time being] with a more standard kettle lead arrangement. I'm sure more improvements are possible by the spending of loads more money : )

apologies I mis-read your post. You were talking about the Radikal.

Indeed on Linn equipment I've tried it on, I can't hear big improvements with the Powerline.

Same with SMPS powered Chord Dave, didn't seem to do much there either.

A few years ago I found that a Powerline improved the performance of my, then, Akurate Radikal. It was certainly a lot better than the standard Linn cable.

Have anyone tried as I have the sarum t with a mains block connector ?

Several expensive mains cables are not needed as you could use standard shielded or the standard kettle cables after the mains block.

It's a cheaper alternative and problery no difference in SQ ........?

Clive101 posted:

Have anyone tried as I have the sarum t with a mains block connector ?

Several expensive mains cables are not needed as you could use standard shielded or the standard kettle cables after the mains block.

It's a cheaper alternative and problery no difference in SQ ........?

If that were so then why place it between the wall socket and the mains distribution block? Why not the last 1.2m before the mains socket? Whilst I accept that mains leads do seem to have an effect on audio performance, I remain rather sceptical as to why the last metre or so should make any difference when the rest of the mains is wired with standard twin and earth cable. 

The audio impact of changing interconnect or speaker cable is (to my ears, at least) more obviously beneficial. That having been said, I would be interested if Chord would consider making a cable to fit between Radikal and Urika. 

I suppose you could add it before the mains socket ( altough i have not tried ) but as the lead is suppied with the correct connections a mains block suits better connection wise and has more outlet sockets.

The lead stops mains electric noise and if other leads are placed after the chord sarum in theory they could be polluted with rf that is why I suggested shield cables which are cheaper.

I have a Sarum T loom, the mains cable made a huge difference in fact a totally different system that is why I suggested to try with a mains block as the whole system would benifet with one mains lead, the extra mile would be change the other mains cables with shield mains as a precaution against RF issues..?

CHORD can make any cable just ask them.

Get a demo first as your system may not be impacted as mine is but for me in my system the difference is monumental 

I am using a Torus power supply now as I have slightly  better performance but did cost more but gave me other features as well so went down the Torus power route.

Do they make a Chord Sarum T Ethernet cable with Taylon ? If so how much does it cost? 

As much as I like Chord as a company (great customer service from Nigel as well), I have a feeling that this Taylon thing is more toward marketing than anything else. The material is nonexistent when I run a search on it.

It does exist. But the real name cannot be disclosed as it is top secret stuff.

id still say though listen to Superlumina first 

analogmusic posted:

id still say though listen to Superlumina first 

I'd say listen to them both.

musicfan51 posted:

Do they make a Chord Sarum T Ethernet cable with Taylon ? If so how much does it cost? 

£2100 for 1m 

ryder. posted:

As much as I like Chord as a company (great customer service from Nigel as well), I have a feeling that this Taylon thing is more toward marketing than anything else. The material is nonexistent when I run a search on it.

It's Chord's name. You need to hear it.

well it's still a 2100 GBP cable.

having heard Superlumina Speaker cable, DIN/XLR and then the Super Aray RCA to RCA... I would say one should listen to the Superlumina first.

I heard Sarum Super Aray , Superlumina, and ChordMusic compared at my stereo dealer! ChordMusic was the best no doubt ! Also the most expensive! 

Dave J posted:

It's Chord's name. You need to hear it.

I'd be tempted if my gear is from the 500 series. As it currently stands, the Chord Sarum T is too good for my system. I am sure it's fantastic though.

ryder. posted:

Dave J posted:

It's Chord's name. You need to hear it.

I'd be tempted if my gear is from the 500 series. As it currently stands, the Chord Sarum T is too good for my system. I am sure it's fantastic though.

agree 100%, a cable can't be more than half the component itself....a powerline for nac 282 and nap 250, chord sarum t for nap 500 and chord music for the statement.

Because in the case of sarum t for nac 282,  the 252 with powerlite is better.

Keler Pierre posted:

ryder. posted:

I'd be tempted if my gear is from the 500 series. As it currently stands, the Chord Sarum T is too good for my system. I am sure it's fantastic though.

agree 100%, a cable can't be more than half the component itself....a powerline for nac 282 and nap 250, chord sarum t for nap 500 and chord music for the statement.

Because in the case of sarum t for nac 282,  the 252 with powerlite is better.

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Keler Pierre posted:

Because in the case of sarum t for nac 282,  the 252 with powerlite is better.

Is that based on actually listening to the two alternatives, presumably you are referring to the Sarum T on the source to preamp or do you mean a power cable?

Either way, although I confess that I have not done that comparison but have owned all of the bits except powerline lite (so will assume poweline full fat on the SupercapDR for the 252) or Sarum T interconnect (so read SSA) though I do have a power cable - and assuming a SupercapDR on the 282 as well, I think that I would probably find the 282 combination preferable 

I do think that the differences are better heard with a 552 though  

analogmusic posted:

well it's still a 2100 GBP cable.

having heard Superlumina Speaker cable, DIN/XLR and then the Super Aray RCA to RCA... I would say one should listen to the Superlumina first.

Having heard all those, too, I'd say you absolutely need to do a comparison between them. They are very different in what they do. 

they sure are, but the superlumina left me in no doubt that these are cables designed by Naim engineers and have that foot tapping Naim sound.