272 lacking sparkle

Or maybe it's because I have some of the best speakers in existence. Who knows? Who cares?

I have only had a limited experience of the 272, but I would conclude, it sounds very good bare and exceptionally good with an XPSdr.

With  good speakers and good cables then I can for certain understand why, it could well be an end point for many..

I heard one today and it was very good indeed but I have to say Tidal sounded pretty bland compared with a feed from a UnitiCore.   

The Strat (Fender) posted:

I heard one today and it was very good indeed but I have to say Tidal sounded pretty bland compared with a feed from a UnitiCore.   

Tidal sounds pretty bland - period.

I am buying back my recently departed 250 dr,because I have a pair of gray birch Dynaudio special 40's on the way.So it will be 272/Xpsdr/250dr>Naca5>Dyn Special 40's...really looking forward to this,third week in July,I am told.

Hungryhalibut posted:

Or maybe it's because I have some of the best speakers in existence. Who knows? Who cares?

There will be some who care and some who don't. Perhaps you could do those who care a favour by unplugging the Super Lumina wires and reverting to standard Naim cables and NAC A5 just to see if the great speakers of yours are still singing to their best capabilities. Though I understand the exercise may be pointless as you may not care anymore since the system is sounding stellar.

The superlumina speaker cable is quite a bit better than naca5

its reflected in the price after all

Are the speakers toed in? This should lift the treble a bit, I get the impression you haven't done with placement yet. 

If you wan't a methodical approach look up "sumiko masterset" with your favourite search engine, I found it quite useful for positioning non boundary speakers.

The target rack, if it's one of those steel and mdf ones may be another problem but not the one you're posting about. At some point it will be worth trying Fraim or isoblue (the flatfish uses something else he claims is very good with a 272 system too).

analogmusic posted:

The superlumina speaker cable is quite a bit better than naca5

Hmmmm........

The price is certainly a lot higher 

Hungryhalibut posted:

Or maybe it's because I have some of the best speakers in existence. Who knows? Who cares?

Proac Tablette 10 are the best speakers in existence

Quite so. That's why I said mine are some of the best; to allow room for the Tablettes to take the top slot. 

Proac tablette 10, are arguably the best speaker i have never heard...

I'd love to try some as they look perfect - tiny sealed boxes that sit by the wall, which is where all speakers should be. But I don't need a second system and the Tablettes, not withstanding the fact that they are the best out there, are unlikely to be as good as the SL2. Though they may be, of course. 

Hungryhalibut posted:

Quite so. That's why I said mine are some of the best; to allow room for the Tablettes to take the top slot. 

Good man, I reread your post and I stand corrected.

Hungryhalibut posted:

I'd love to try some as they look perfect - tiny sealed boxes that sit by the wall, which is where all speakers should be. But I don't need a second system and the Tablettes, not withstanding the fact that they are the best out there, are unlikely to be as good as the SL2. Though they may be, of course. 

For the money an absolute steal, close wall placement, top and midrange to die for and enough bass for the right room.

Since this turned into a ProAc Tablette thread... Has anybody compared the older Tablette Anniversary with the new Tablette 10? Quite a while ago I listened to the Anniversary (driven by an XS2), but thought (staying within the original theme of the thread) Neat's SX3 had more "sparkle". Anymore "glitter" with Number 10? [Still talking about ProAc, not Downing Street -- obviously no "glitter" in Whitehall these days... ]

Thanks to Hifiman, I've spent a happy hour listening to Nick Drake's Family Tree. It's a brilliant album, and while I confess I've not been listening for sparkle, it does sound rather wonderful, even with a ropey old 272 that's not real Hifi because it has two things in one box. 

HH, correction, it's much worse than that... it's three things in one box... 

Streamer / DAC / pre-amp!

In other words it can't possibly sound as good as it actually does! 

Silly me. Maybe it's four if you count the headphone amp. 

HH - you protest too much.  No one has said it's ropey just not quite on the same level as other options.  Calm down old chap it's only the stereo

Hungryhalibut posted:

Silly me. Maybe it's four if you count the headphone amp. 

Five if you count the power supply, although I think I remember that you use an XPS, so four would be right....

best

David

Don't forget a dab radio if it's fitted 

Yes so that's six things. No wonder HH isn't sure that he should be enjoying it.

best

David

I think it also comes with a hearing aid connection....some of the old boys need it..