Dynaudio Contour 60

Posted by: eagle3333 on 17 July 2017

I just spent a few days demoing these speakers at home with a 252/250DR and thought my observations might be of use to anyone curious about them. I have no affiliations. I take pictures of things. The report is thanks to a recommendation from Mr. Halibut (thank you HH) who suggested I check out the 60's in my quest for the right speaker for me - my backstory being a tedious 2-year quest to solve issues of glare and harshness. The foregoing observations are all the product of this set-up, my ears, my room.

The Contour 60's showed no signs of glare whatsoever. Period. Great result for me. They presented a sound packed with delicate detail and texture throughout the range and not just in vocals, but those leading edges and female vocals suffer no harshness and are just beautifully rendered.  

The 60's presentation is not in your face and up front. They are more laid back. They deliver the music a little further back from the speaker plane and so lack the in-your-face thrill factor, in that sense, possessed by 'hooligan' speakers with more slam. (I like hooligan slam too..) They generate their emotion and excitement through the wonderful detail (I haven't heard before) and reproduction that feels very close to the real thing; as opposed to using front-of-stage positioning to try to achieve a sense of reality. Voices are the most lifelike I've ever heard; I can hear delicate intonations in words and phrases which I haven't previously. Katie Melua almost reduced me to tears. 

While the 60's don't really do too much exciting bass 'slap', they reproduce percussion as I understand it to sound in real life; you can hear the texture and changing tone of bass notes. Drums and bass can sit a little further back on the stage, which might lessen the excitement of a more forward presentation, but you gain a greater sense of depth and 3-dimensionality. I'm not saying there is little bass - it goes down to 28hz. It's just less cricket-bat-in-the-face and more 88mm shell detonation. But it's not loose and boomy; it's tight and controlled. My room is 12' x 24'. They are pretty well behaved, but I wouldn't want to put them in a smaller space. I have them 3' off the back wall, 9' apart and 18" off the sidewalls. I threw out all the acoustic panels save for those on the back wall. The 250DR seems to drives them well enough but I'd love to hear them with a 300.

Vast soundstage top to bottom, side to side, front to back and no sign of the speakers.

I'm conscious of more happening in the music than I have been. I imagine this is partly down to the extra detail; the appearance of subtleties; partly down to the shining vocals/midrange and partly, perhaps, because they're not distracting me with anything heavy handed in any one area - everything is in perfect, well-spaced balance. I could describe the 60's as polite and sensitive. They are. But they rock, too; just in a sophisticated way that isn't in your face. Aston Martin as opposed to Ford Focus RS. Being glare free in this company, they also stand listening-to for hours without fatigue. I found their presentation in these circumstances 'musical', utterly beguiling and addictive.  As with everything, they won't suit everyone, but I'd recommend a try at home if you're looking to change. Especially if you suffer any degree of glare!

Philosophical footnote :

I've come to learn (the hard and expensive way) that what we seek is, ultimately, all about synergy. One great unit will sound awful in one context, wonderful in another. HH suggested Dynaudio and Naim are said to have synergy. In the case of the 252/250/Contour 60, they really do. Other things really don't. My journey has also made me take note of just how important are speakers. There's a lot of focus here, naturally, on black boxes and sources, wires etc etc. But I now appreciate the fundamental differences different speakers bring to music reproduction. Just because they're at the end of the chain doesn't mean they should be dealt with last. Some elements make only subtle differences; speakers completely redefine our sound. Whether it's for better or worse is down to that synergy - in each person's own context.

Posted on: 20 July 2017 by badlands

They will keep getting better, you're going to have to trust me when I say that. Bass will get tighter and faster, they will have a see through quality and become more open with no harshness. The transformation is really remarkable, more so than any other speaker I have owned, that tweeter is just on another level of refinement.

 Once you become accustomed to the Dynaudio sound, other speakers just won't sound right, you'll understand that better the longer you own the speakers.

Posted on: 20 July 2017 by No quarter

You are right there Badlands,whenever I get a new pair of Dyn's,I play them 24/7 for 3 weeks straight,which gets you to the 500 hours as fast as possible.They will improve,but mine have always sounded really good from brand new.

Posted on: 22 July 2017 by eagle3333

Thanks Badlands. I've now got them on iRadio all day when I'm at work. The dealer confirmed they only had 20hrs on them; which explains a lot. The degree to which the sound has changed, 70hrs later, is surprising and an education. Just as you say, bass is faster. There's a lot more attack. Detail and texture about the same. A couple evenings ago they sounded very 'thin' and bordering on harsh. Scared the life out of me. This has now passed. (Query mains current variation, perhaps.) Permanently, I hope, because my Mcintosh tube pre' adds more body and warmth so when the 252 comes in and drops that in  favour of more detail and transparency, I'm a touch concerned about the glare monster. Find out in a couple weeks.

I guess it's unreasonable to expect dealers to run-in every set of speakers they get, but I do think they should put 100hrs on the expensive ones so we buyers don't make a big investment based on a false reading. Or tell the buyer that a set requires some run-in time to get a more representative idea of their voicing.

Posted on: 24 July 2017 by eagle3333

I'm completely in love with these speakers. Which is just as well as I just took a bit of a bath selling the Sopras. The detail is astonishing; the delicacy of presentation - when it's called for - is beautiful. Equally, as they get faster, they rocking, too. There's a sense of power, excitement and grand scale through the detail, impressive bass and spatial arrangement  which is new to me. Music is conveyed in a multi-layered and 3-dimensional way compared to the less sophisticated, often 2 dimensional, in your face presentation, I had before. Perhaps it was set-up, but I've set these up, too and they weren't that straightforward to optimise. Imaging across the expansive soundstage is superbly evenly spread. Bass has, as promised above, tightened, has more slam but is shot through with texture and great depth. I've just never heard so much music, sounding so good. It's written above that after hearing voices on Dynaudio, they don't sound quite right on other speakers. Well, I can't say that, but I can say these speakers, in my set up, are revealing my music in the most lifelike way I've ever heard - with no fatigue and no glare.

I'm in process of sorting a dedicated radial with a balanced power supply - because I'm of the 'leave no stone unturned', persuasion - but am wondering whether to bother. That squeaky moment a few nights back persuades me that I should; especially given the cost is modest compared to the rest of the investment.  And the 252 is still to come..    

Posted on: 24 July 2017 by Mayor West

Glad they're working for you Eagle. Enjoying the updates! 

Posted on: 24 July 2017 by eagle3333

Thanks MW. It's about time! On the glare monster, I have found a Christine McVie that's a bit painful! I can live with one or two..

Posted on: 24 July 2017 by No quarter

Glad to hear you enjoying the Dyn's...I think I am a lifer too My dealer usually sets up and plays my new speakers for several days before I pick them up,and I believe it talks about run in,inside the manual.Still waiting patiently for my 40's.

Posted on: 24 July 2017 by eagle3333

I hope you're blown away by them NQ. I feel like I'm listening to grown-up speakers in a Veyron rather than a pair of teenagers in a hot hatch!

Posted on: 24 July 2017 by badlands
eagle3333 posted:

I'm completely in love with these speakers. Which is just as well as I just took a bit of a bath selling the Sopras. The detail is astonishing; the delicacy of presentation - when it's called for - is beautiful. Equally, as they get faster, they rocking, too. There's a sense of power, excitement and grand scale through the detail, impressive bass and spatial arrangement  which is new to me. Music is conveyed in a multi-layered and 3-dimensional way compared to the less sophisticated, often 2 dimensional, in your face presentation, I had before. Perhaps it was set-up, but I've set these up, too and they weren't that straightforward to optimise. Imaging across the expansive soundstage is superbly evenly spread. Bass has, as promised above, tightened, has more slam but is shot through with texture and great depth. I've just never heard so much music, sounding so good. It's written above that after hearing voices on Dynaudio, they don't sound quite right on other speakers. Well, I can't say that, but I can say these speakers, in my set up, are revealing my music in the most lifelike way I've ever heard - with no fatigue and no glare.

I'm in process of sorting a dedicated radial with a balanced power supply - because I'm of the 'leave no stone unturned', persuasion - but am wondering whether to bother. That squeaky moment a few nights back persuades me that I should; especially given the cost is modest compared to the rest of the investment.  And the 252 is still to come..    

Not at all surprised, just wait, the best is yet to come!!!

Posted on: 24 July 2017 by No quarter
badlands posted:
eagle3333 posted:

I'm completely in love with these speakers. Which is just as well as I just took a bit of a bath selling the Sopras. The detail is astonishing; the delicacy of presentation - when it's called for - is beautiful. Equally, as they get faster, they rocking, too. There's a sense of power, excitement and grand scale through the detail, impressive bass and spatial arrangement  which is new to me. Music is conveyed in a multi-layered and 3-dimensional way compared to the less sophisticated, often 2 dimensional, in your face presentation, I had before. Perhaps it was set-up, but I've set these up, too and they weren't that straightforward to optimise. Imaging across the expansive soundstage is superbly evenly spread. Bass has, as promised above, tightened, has more slam but is shot through with texture and great depth. I've just never heard so much music, sounding so good. It's written above that after hearing voices on Dynaudio, they don't sound quite right on other speakers. Well, I can't say that, but I can say these speakers, in my set up, are revealing my music in the most lifelike way I've ever heard - with no fatigue and no glare.

I'm in process of sorting a dedicated radial with a balanced power supply - because I'm of the 'leave no stone unturned', persuasion - but am wondering whether to bother. That squeaky moment a few nights back persuades me that I should; especially given the cost is modest compared to the rest of the investment.  And the 252 is still to come..    

Not at all surprised, just wait, the best is yet to come!!!

Agreed,he has one hell of a pair of speakers there,and even though I have not heard them yet,I would think you would have to move up to the Evidence line,to beat them.