Hi-Line

Posted by: Big Jo on 21 July 2017

The introduction of a Chord Hugo DAC in my system means my DIN to DIN Hi-Line is no longer necessary right for my configuration, I now need a 2 RCA to DIN Hi-Line, these seem hard to get hold of on the used market, so I thought I would see if Naim would be prepared to re-terminate, I was disappointed to be told they wouldn't as they didn't want a slightly shorter Hi-Line in the field. Seems a bit nonsensical to me, it's my cable, I own it, if re-terminating is possible (which Chord do without issue) why not offer this service. Seems daft to lose £400 or so on this cable only to buy another. Feels like Naim is a changing, years ago they would have done that easily.

Posted on: 21 July 2017 by james n
Big Jo posted:

if re-terminating is possible (which Chord do without issue) why not offer this service. Seems daft to lose £400 or so on this cable only to buy another. Feels like Naim is a changing, years ago they would have done that easily.

Re-termination is a bit of a pain and to be honest the cost of Naim doing this for you probably wouldn't be cheap. It's a bit different for Chord as making cables is their bread and butter...

You won't lose £400 - you be able to sell it for a decent amount and when a Hiline of the right flavour comes up you'll pick that up around the same price so no real loss. You may even find someone who is willing to swap if you advertise in the right place 

Posted on: 21 July 2017 by Big Jo

Thanks for the reply James, yeah, I guess you're right when it comes to Naim and cables, but, just feels a bit like, well we just don't fancy doing it, I'd pay £150 to have it done. The the other problem is that in RCA to DIN configuration they seem quite rare, so if I sold mine for £300 or so, and bought a new one at £760 it's quite a big difference, hence why I concluded a £400 loss. Will hold out for a bit and see if anything turns up.

 

Posted on: 21 July 2017 by Clive B

Why not see if you can find a dealer who'd be willing to take it as a trade-in for RCA to DIN? You might even be able to trade up to a Chord and once you've heard one...

Posted on: 21 July 2017 by james n

I had the same issue Jo when i moved from an Akurate DS to a Naim NDX having to go from an RCA>DIN to a DIN>DIN Hiline. Clive makes a very good suggestion although you could be on a slippery slope to spending a lot of cash .

Hope you get it sorted whichever route you go. 

James

 

Posted on: 21 July 2017 by Big Jo

It is a slippery slope, I was talking to someone about my system, and they said "you have thousands invested into cables and furniture, but you're running Credos", not to undermine how wonderful Credos are, but just to illustrate how easy it is to get carried away on the details, well, it was in my case, I am sure the rest of your are farm more disciplined.

Posted on: 21 July 2017 by Skip

My ProAc D40R's cost a small fraction of the rest of my setup.   This is common if you look at the other thread.  Source first for one thing.  Secondly, it is a lot easier to upgrade a box than upgrade a speaker.  

Do you think AV Options would re-terminate your HiLine or would Chord do something comparable for you? The base HiLine should be easy to sell.

Posted on: 22 July 2017 by northpole

Must say that whilst I was much impressed by the sound quality improvement provided by my hi-lines, in hindsight were I to wish to change one, I'd be looking for another product.  My reasoning is the delicacy of the wobbly din connectors which I have reduced faith in terms of durability.  It seems to me that the weight of the cable over time can over stress the wobblies and induce failure.  That it my cats!!  (I have not found evidence to fully blame the mogs!).  Having said that, it may be that an alternative product offering as good or better performance may be financially ruinous!

Peter

Posted on: 26 July 2017 by analogmusic

well one can always used the cable that Naim used for over 30 years, the RCA to DIN lavender, which led to the introduction of Chord Chrysalis, and apparently, according to Chord heavily influenced all their later cables.

The Naim RCA to DIN takes a lot of money to beat. only 114 GBP. It has been said that it holds it's ground even against Superlumina  RCA to DIN which costs 10 times more !!!

Posted on: 26 July 2017 by ianrobertm

If you believe a recent post on here, the 'standard' Naim cable is utterly useless...... 

Really.... I rather think not.

Posted on: 26 July 2017 by JedT

the economics of cables must be a wonder to behold...

I wonder  what product on earth has a higher gross margin than high end cables?

 

Posted on: 26 July 2017 by analogmusic

I think I'm guilty of saying the Superlumina DIN/XLR makes the standard DIN/XLR sound dull and lifeless.

Not sure why, but this particular link for the regulated amplifiers seems to benefit a lot more than source to preamp interconnects.

No idea why.

Posted on: 28 July 2017 by p.
JedT posted:

the economics of cables must be a wonder to behold...

I wonder  what product on earth has a higher gross margin than high end cables?

 

Ink cartridges.

Posted on: 28 July 2017 by Bob the Builder

Big Jo I was exactly in your posistion all be it with a 2Qute sold my HiLine for 300 quid on eBay and bought a Chord Signature Tuned Aray for 280 on another forum.