FlatCap2 + Stageline N connection

I've tried all the other inputs with the same result. 

Do you know Christopher I'm not sure! I was always under the impression that the inputs auto detected what type of connection was being used whether it was DIN or RCA. Is this not the case?  

No. They're selectable. Someone else is going have to tell you how.

Mr Bungle posted:

I've tried all the other inputs with the same result. 

Do you know Christopher I'm not sure! I was always under the impression that the inputs auto detected what type of connection was being used whether it was DIN or RCA. Is this not the case?  

DEFINATELY not the case Mr B  

Mr Bungle posted:

Now...I have been having an issue with this for a while now and I'm not sure why!

I've connected the Stageline/Flatcap/Supernait as per Richard's instructions above but I'm still not able to hear anything. The Stageline powers up but no sound is outputted. If I connect the Stageline directly to the Supernait therefore bypassing the Flatcap then I can listen to music. 

The Flatcap has recently been looked at by my local dealer for a fault but none was found and the turntable has recently been serviced as well with a new Dynavector  DV-10X5 cartridge fitted.

Am I missing something simple? ��

...like connecting the turntable ?

No, I had this problem once, then I selected the proper input source on my preamp... try it...

Well everyday is a school day as they say. In the 9 years I've had the Supernait I've only ever had to assign digital inputs.

I suppose the next question is how do I assign the DIN inputs on the Supernait? I've looked at the manual and its not clear.

Mr B, I've just looked at the SN manual and I don't find it clear either. If I was wrong when I said the DINs and RCAs were selectable, I apologise. This needs the help of Richard Dane for instance, or others who own the SN.

Stageline manual definitely shows use of a psu connected to a later model, two DIN Stageline as per Nitrous and confirmed by Richard Dane.

Chris

Quick google turned up this

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...-input-selection-how

So the DIN / RCA's are wired in parallel and don't need to be selected - we can rule this out being an issue.  

Having looked at your system spec, to fully rule out the Flatcap being an issue, you could try your HiCAP in place of it. Remember to put the link plug back in place on the SN when doing this. 

Wire the HiCAP as follows - 

Socket 4 to Stageline. Socket 3 to SN via DIN 4-5 cable. 

If still no sound then i'd replace the DIN 4-5 Cable.

James

PS - one final thing. Looking at the manual (Section 19) i see you can re-assign the inputs to either analogue or digital. Worth checking your inputs are assigned correctly. Have you tried connecting another source to one of the DIN inputs and if so do you get sound ok ?

James, I think we are both going a bit bonkers over this!  :-)))

C.

Nothing like trying to solve a hi-fi problem before tackling the big stuff 

Thank you guys for your helpful comments 

I think I'll see if I can hold of a another 4-5 connector to see if that's the issue.

Not without trying connecting the Nitrous way, surely.

Christopher_M posted:

Not without trying connecting the Nitrous way, surely.

Ooops, forgot about that! Forgive me...post night shift delirium!

Well hallelujah, we have sound at last . Moved the 4-5 interconnect to the Stageline as per Nitrous suggestion and it's back.

Thank you guys for your help it was much appreciated, this has been bugging me for ages 

Glad it's sorted. I still can't understand why this doesn't work with the FC inline though as it should work in this configuration 

james n posted:

Glad it's sorted. I still can't understand why this doesn't work with the FC inline though as it should work in this configuration 

Me neither - although I've never used one of the later Stagelines, I was under the impression it should be useable  either way.

Result!

It's great, we've learned something.... If you have the one DIN Stageline and you want to put a *cap on it, then go plain vanilla. If you the two DIN and you want to put a *cap on it, go Nitrous

I'm still curious as to one thing so please Indulge me Mr Bungle. Did the Stageline work ok with just the SNAIC 5 between that and the SN Aux2 - no other cables ?

Of course James. 

The SNAIC5 goes from the Power Out A to the Stageline (therefore unchanged from the photo)  and the 4-5 interconnect was taken out of the Flatcap from Signal A and now connects into the Stageline (Labelled N) which is then connected into the Tuner DIN input on the back of the SN.  

Excellent news Mr Bungle! Glad you have music again

When your feeling adventurous try the TT earth on the SuperNait instead of stage line and see what you think.

By the way, I agree the stageline should have worked either way, but at least you proved the cable was ok and you are up and running which is the main thing!

Mr Bungle posted:

Of course James. 

The SNAIC5 goes from the Power Out A to the Stageline (therefore unchanged from the photo)  and the 4-5 interconnect was taken out of the Flatcap from Signal A and now connects into the Stageline (Labelled N) which is then connected into the Tuner DIN input on the back of the SN.  

 

Thanks Mr B- yes i understand that configuration (which works). I was just curious when you mentioned not running with the Flatcap earlier in the thread, did you only have the SNAIC5 only between the Stageline and SN2 ?

james n posted:

Mr Bungle posted:

Of course James. 

The SNAIC5 goes from the Power Out A to the Stageline (therefore unchanged from the photo)  and the 4-5 interconnect was taken out of the Flatcap from Signal A and now connects into the Stageline (Labelled N) which is then connected into the Tuner DIN input on the back of the SN.  

 

Thanks Mr B- yes i understand that configuration (which works). I was just curious when you mentioned not running with the Flatcap earlier in the thread, did you only have the SNAIC5 only between the Stageline and SN2 ?

Yes, just the SNAIC5. It sounded quite nice as well.

I'm just about to listen to some Rush to give the Flatcap/Stageline setup a little test 

Well i'm still confused why it didn't work in the 'naim' configuration but it's now working so enjoy your Rush session 

James, Maybe the two DIN model only works the Nitrous way.