Supernait2 “speed” and cables issue

alanbass1 posted:

And I thought it was about the music.....

I don't think the music itself cares about different amplifiers.

Agree with previous posters hearing your amp with naca 5 before comiting to other make is wise. An alternative, If there is a Linn dealer in your area? You could ask to try Linn K20, similar to naca5 (rumord to be identical with the predecessor naca4) so good electrical match with Naim amps, and less costly...

 

Moderated Post:  Huge, I've had to edit and remove reference to the name of someone who does not wish to have either their name or their products mentioned or discussed on this forum.

I'm a bit perplexed by this.   So someone (I don't know who as I didn't see the original post) actually went to the trouble of contacting Naim to say that they didn't want to be mentioned on the forum?  And this is being accommodated for what reason?  This isn't a criticism, rather a question, Richard.

Hungryhalibut posted:

I’ve never understood this prat thing, and really think it’s best to forget about prat, bass, inky blackness and other twaddle and see if alternative wires help you get further into the music. Does it make you tap your feet, nod your head, dance, cry or whatever? Nordost and Naim is a fairly unusual choice. I used Naim A5 for years, then tried Chord Odyssey, which made the music boring and went back to A5. Later, when I had PMC speakers I preferred TQB to A5. As to Rainsoothe’s point about it ruining prat, I have no idea what this means. I really liked them. When I got some Naim speakers the TQB wasn’t so good, so I went back to Naim cables. As it’s a new amplifier I’d give it a month or two to sort itself out and then see what you think. It’s always worth borrowing some A5 from your dealer as a benchmark. 

Very hardly I could agree more on the points I have some personal experience of, which means basically everything bar the Chord Odyssey.

I have used (and am using) NAC A5 for ages, and have had TQBlacks (first generation) for several months: they were excellent in my room, didn't spoil any PR&T ( although I too don't know what exactly it is), and sounded open, detailed, with occasional deep, controlled and, most important, tuned bass (which, for a SuperNait, is not always an easy task).

While I understand why Naim never spends a word to finally exorcise this ghost of idea of an amplifier's speed, I wish they – at least occasionally – intervened to put some science in play here on the forum, not only their unsurpassed marketing and almost Neuro Linguistic Programming capacities. As Nigel says, forget the psycho-audio babble and concentrate on communication. After 50 years since the first stereo entered the home where I was living, I have learned one thing for sure: that a foot that starts tapping by itself while you're listening to music is a very good, albeit not the only, indicator of quality somewhere - if anything, of your listening mind.

M.

WilcoFT posted:

 

Moderated Post:  Huge, I've had to edit and remove reference to the name of someone who does not wish to have either their name or their products mentioned or discussed on this forum.

I'm a bit perplexed by this.   So someone (I don't know who as I didn't see the original post) actually went to the trouble of contacting Naim to say that they didn't want to be mentioned on the forum?  And this is being accommodated for what reason?  This isn't a criticism, rather a question, Richard.

I think it was not a request but rather a legal warning. Knowing the details would make the thing laughable, but details cannot be included...

Hungryhalibut posted:

Naim supply a phono to din interconnect for £115, which is very high quality and what I’d go go. As for the Nordost, they cost £1,049 for a 3m pair, which is a lot to spend for something that may or may not be the best choice. Most here are advising you to choose A5. The dealer is refusing to supply it. You can either choose the advice of a dealer who seems clueless, or follow the advice of long term Naim owners who have spent their own money on getting the best from their systems. If the dealer really is that incompetent that they cannot make up a pair of A5 cables, based solely on what I’ve heard myself I’d suggest Tellurium Black, which come ready terminated and will not require the dealer to make any effort. 

I am not following this thread thoroughly, but I can add that a dealer of my knowledge, who sells Naim, actually hides the NAC A5 so that the pet shop boys cannot use it, and commands the use of Nordost cables everywhere, safe for the costliest systems, where he commands the use of Transparent Cables, even more costly (and with even higher margins).

WilcoFT posted:

 

Moderated Post:  Huge, I've had to edit and remove reference to the name of someone who does not wish to have either their name or their products mentioned or discussed on this forum.

I'm a bit perplexed by this.   So someone (I don't know who as I didn't see the original post) actually went to the trouble of contacting Naim to say that they didn't want to be mentioned on the forum?  And this is being accommodated for what reason?  This isn't a criticism, rather a question, Richard.

From the forum rules “A company has, in the past, expressed a strong desire not to be discussed on this forum and we are happy to oblige (including here). You will be informed if your post is removed for this reason.”

So Richard is in the tricky position of having a company which does not wish to be discussed, and thus whom he can’t name to tell us not to discuss, leaving him to have to delete references made in all innocence. 

I suspect that, as this is a thread about wires, it’s a different company that has asked not to be mentioned, rather than the one that the rules refer to. 

Yes HH it was...

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