New Uniti range gets Roon Ready update

Hmmm, not for the NAC-N 272?  Thats a shame

Architected for sound, eh? 

wilro15 posted:

Hmmm, not for the NAC-N 272?  Thats a shame

The NAC-N 272 is based on an older platform, I doubt is Naim will provide Roon capabilities to this ... if possible at all ...

Perhaps they need to update the NAC-N 272 boards!  

Roon is fantastic.  Great update for Naim. 

Great news, Roon and Naim will be a great match. 

.sjb

Roon seems to be fantastic. But can someone explain to me how it will work and how to use it on my  Hi-fi system. I know my Mac Book Pro will be the Core /digital library. My system is Nova (soon) and my music is stored on a Zen/Vortexbox Musicserver. 

Indeed, some “Roon for dummies” would be welcome. Can I run Roon without a PC or Mac, from e.g. my NAS?? 

Klout10 posted:

Indeed, some “Roon for dummies” would be welcome. Can I run Roon without a PC or Mac, from e.g. my NAS?? 

If you google "roon core requirements" you will see that you can run a Roon core on QNAP and Synology devices.

Roon needs something with a bit of processing power to run the Roon core (its engine, if you like). Whilst it runs quite well on some NAS they are likely to have limitations with respect to some of the more intensive processes, upsampling , DSP, multiple zones etc. 

Roon is harder to explain than use, so when the firmware update arrives, install Roon on a PC or Mac on the same network as the uniti product. You will be prompted to tell it where to look for your files, point it there and let it analyse your music. (This can take an hour or two - with further background analysis going on for a day or two to give volumes levelling capability and DR values etc. )

Then in settings, audio devices enable the Uniti product and away you go. A lot of people complain about the 14 day trial being too short but to be honest I went lifetime after the first week. 

The Roon forum is an informative and welcoming place, you might even see one or two familiar faces 

.sjb

As I mentioned elsewhere on this board, I have Roon which I bought mainly to stream to my Devialet Pro, which it does very nicely. As my wife had been playing some iTune music on the Muso this afternoon (I use Tidal mainly, although Roon picks up all available music on your network), and I could see the Muso as a 'zone' on Roon, I thought I'd switch to it and see what would happen. It simply picked up from where my wife had stopped and happily fired up the Muso. From there, I switched back to the Pro and unpaused what it had been playing from Tidal via Roon and off it went. Both rooms happily playing different music streams activated by Roon. It cannot play the same stream to multiple devices though. It sucks the juice out of the MacBook which contains the Roon software at a prodigious rate if you are running it on battery alone. 

Interesting - I already have Roon Core running on a NUC using ROCK and an Endpoint feeding the NDS either via UPnP using the Sonore UPnP Bridge and through a USB->S/PDIF convertor into a Digital input. The UPnP Bridge solution isn't able to play 24/192, DSD64 files (or DoP 24/172.4)

So having native RAAT support on the NDS would be an advantage - however when a Uniti acts as an Roon Endpoint, is it operating using the RAAT protocol (Roon's own) as a stand-alone component i.e. playing the tracks or if the Uniti is a Core is it able to serve the tracks to a Streamer (NDS, NDX, ND5XS, 272, 172) over UPnP (i.e. is it bridging between RAAT and UPnP protocols?)

Simon.

marcusman posted:

Perhaps they need to update the NAC-N 272 boards!  

Roon is fantastic.  Great update for Naim. 

Would be a welcome update if Naim made this a possibility and more importantly, offered it as an affordable upgrade.

rightcoastants posted:

marcusman posted:

Perhaps they need to update the NAC-N 272 boards!  

Roon is fantastic.  Great update for Naim. 

Would be a welcome update if Naim made this a possibility and more importantly, offered it as an affordable upgrade.

Roon is Roon and the price is on its own website, and its not cheap. Its hardware integration is of course a different story.

rightcoastants posted:

marcusman posted:

Perhaps they need to update the NAC-N 272 boards!  

Roon is fantastic.  Great update for Naim. 

Would be a welcome update if Naim made this a possibility and more importantly, offered it as an affordable upgrade.

It’s a FREE upgrade, just like Tidal and Spotify. Roon is an add on, but one that many are willing to pay for and now Naim have integrated it for free. 

You're either missing the point or bringing Naim negativity to a new level.

.sjb 

It would be nice to see a more specific statement from Naim on support for older Uniti line - the Connection Magazine article simply says "A software update will be available at the end of October across the Uniti all-in-one players featuring Roon Ready."

my SuperUniti is part of the Uniti all in one players line, right?

Some more information here

http://www.digitalaudioreview....at-schiit-on-a-naim/

Relevant quote 

Uniti comprises the following models: “the reference audiophile Uniti Nova, the multi-functional CD operating Uniti Star and the compact yet powerful Uniti Atom”..

.sjb

Hanover, I think it refers to the current range of Uniti all-in-one players, not older players using a platform that I guess was designed long before Roon itself was even under consideration. I gather that the new platform on the current range was designed from the very beginning to accommodate services like Roon.

I don't know whether the older platform is capable of supporting this, or whether an update is even possible in future (at a guess I'd say probably not), but there are other current threads on here about how to add Roon to older players with 3rd party hardware add-ons.  

I'd like to implement Roon. But I'm not getting into this "pile of boxes and spaghetti" nonsense that people are using today. 

So I will have to wait for naim to do something "new platform" on the separates range. 

Again I'm very happy that the new Uniti range will soon be Roon Ready.  I'll likely wait for Naim to update the separates range if it's possible, in the meantime I'll continue with my 3rd party hardware solution.

jon honeyball posted:

I'd like to implement Roon. But I'm not getting into this "pile of boxes and spaghetti" nonsense that people are using today. 

So I will have to wait for naim to do something "new platform" on the separates range. 

Drole! Roon is downloadable software that requires no extra boxes at all. I have mine loaded on my MacBook which talks to my HiFi hardware on the network. As long as your music is accessible via your network and, or the internet you simply 'point' your music at your preferred output device and play the music. I do have a glitch whereby my music can stop for no accountable reason and I have to stop and start the track, but a maximum of once per session which could be any length of time. Roon also does not appear to like competition on the same machine i.e. surfing the net while playing your music can produce nasty distortion. 

What I was trying to say is that I would very much welcome a potential upgrade to the NAC-N 272 in order to take advantage of Roon integration from a hardware point-of-view. 

rightcoastants posted:

What I was trying to say is that I would very much welcome a potential upgrade to the NAC-N 272 in order to take advantage of Roon integration from a hardware point-of-view. 

My thoughts as well!

As I understand things, it will not be possible to retrofit the new platform to legacy products, which I imagine means no Roon. 

i would be very surprised if any of the "legacy" products would have a board upgrade.

rightcoastants posted:

What I was trying to say is that I would very much welcome a potential upgrade to the NAC-N 272 in order to take advantage of Roon integration from a hardware point-of-view. 

I very much doubt that Naim will offer Roon-ready upgrades for the streaming section of their NDS, NAC-N 272, etc. devices. I am also not sure how support for Roon will be integrated into the Naim app. Currently it is a control point for Naim streamers only, it does not even support generic UPnP or OpenHome streamers. As Richard Dane pointed out a few posts above, one can easily front-end a NDS or a 272 with a Roon endpoint. I guess the crucial question is that of integration that is, whether the Naim app will recognize the Roon endpoint or not.