N272 - XPS dead

Posted by: Monkadill on 06 October 2017

Turned on my N272 - XPXDR and it doesn't power up, it also doesn't power up if I power up the N272 in isolation of the XPSDR. Ive changed the plug fuse, no change. Any advice is welcome.

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Finkfan

Have you checked the internal fuses? 

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Monkadill

no, is that easy to do?

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Finkfan

Yes it is. The fuse carrier is next to the iec inlet at the rear. But the 272 fuse shouldn’t have blown if it was powered by the xps. 

Did you disconnect the burndy, re fit the link plug and then try powering up the 272? 

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Monkadill

I did try and power up the 272 on its own, nothing. Its dead

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Finkfan

Does the xps power up? 

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Monkadill

the XPS doesn't power up either

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Finkfan

Have you checked the fuse or mcb that feeds the hifi circuit? 

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Monkadill
Finkfan posted:

Have you checked the fuse or mcb that feeds the hifi circuit? 

Please can you tell me how this is done

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by ianrobertm

The XPS can be a little.... delicate, wrt its internal fuse. Suggest you put a new fuse into the XPS's fuse holder (at the back of the XPS where the IEC mains lead plugs in). It needs to be the correct fuse for an XPS. Then try the XPS again, on its own.

If you are unsure or unclear - contact your Naim dealer. Your replies are worrying.....

IMO, this is probably just a blown XPS fuse.

 

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Finkfan
Monkadill posted:
Finkfan posted:

Have you checked the fuse or mcb that feeds the hifi circuit? 

Please can you tell me how this is done

If you have a dedicated circuit your installer should have labeled it as such. Alternatively you could unplug 272 and xps and plug something which you know works, Tv, Radio, lamp etc, in to that socket and see what happens. If nothing, the circuit is dead, fuse or mcb issue. If it does work then it’s a box issue. 

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Monkadill

I placed the fuses from the N250DR into the XPSDR and it works, so its the Naim fuse has blown. What voltage fuses should the XP's have as replacement (I intend to get NAIM ones)

 

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Klout10

With regards to safety: please contact your frendly Naim dealer, he should be able to provide you the correct fuse ... 

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Finkfan

There should be a spare in the fuse carrier 

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Finkfan

That comes up as a HIFi timing fuse. Don’t use that. Search for naim internal fuse on the Analogue seduction site and get the correct rating for the XPS

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Finkfan

If you look on the back of the xps it will tell you the correct rating of fuse. This will depend on your mains voltage in the country you live in. 

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Richard Dane
Finkfan posted:

There should be a spare in the fuse carrier 

Exactly.  And if not, the rating is printed on the rear label.  It is imperative that you replace with a fuse of the exact same make, type and rating.  Your Naim dealer should be able to supply.

See the FAQ for details:

Equipment Fuses

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Monkadill

ah..which one is the spare?

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Finkfan

The one that has the wire in the middle in tact. The glass on the blown fuse may be darker. 

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Monkadill
Richard Dane posted:
Finkfan posted:

There should be a spare in the fuse carrier 

Exactly.  And if not, the rating is printed on the rear label.  It is imperative that you replace with a fuse of the exact same make, type and rating.  Your Naim dealer should be able to supply.

See the FAQ for details:

Equipment Fuses

The missing part of the jigsaw - thanks, sorted and new spares ordered!

Spare part number is T2.5A, 250V 

 

Thanks for all the replys

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Monkadill

On a side note, which order should my system be started, I have a N272- XPSDR and NAP250DR?

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Finkfan

Xps then 250 

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Monkadill
Finkfan posted:

Xps then 250 

cheers

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Finkfan

You’re welcome. Have a good weekend 

Posted on: 06 October 2017 by Richard Dane
Monkadill posted:

On a side note, which order should my system be started, I have a N272- XPSDR and NAP250DR?

Again, the FAQ to the rescue...

Switch on/off order

Posted on: 09 October 2017 by Ravenswood10

Last time this happened to me my dealer reminded me that the fuse is directional - I think with the kite mark facing upwards. Not that I've experimented though!