Bookshelf Monitors for UnitiQute2

Posted by: Crispin_Hill on 06 November 2017

Speaker help please! I have a UnitiQute 2. I have nSats and nSub. Unfortunately, my nSub has gone nSplat! Sub developed a “ground earth loop” and £600 to return and repair. So I’m thinking... sell the piano-black nSats and move on... 

Must haves: mine is a small / medium living room. Must be placed close to rear wall. Will sit on shelf (maybe wall mount). Electronic music and vocals. 

Let us say that for £700 I could buy myself as ‘used’ either:

1)  Neat Petite SX

2) Rega RX1

3) PMC Twenty.21

4) Linn Kan’s Mk1 - a bit cheaper 

5) Totem Rainmakers (if I can find some used ones) - a bit over budget 

... if I have to, I can take the NAP150x off my DacV1 for essential oomph but I’d rather not

BTW... “Guru Juniors”: Might as well not exist anymore (went into liquidation... then made in China)

thanks!

 

Posted on: 06 November 2017 by ChrisSU

If you like what the NSats do, why not just get another sub? Maybe a Rel of BK. 

Posted on: 06 November 2017 by GT

I'd look at a pair of PMC DB1i's as well. I had them on my unitiqute2, and now on a NAP150 and they're great.

PMC used to make wall mounts for them so there's that option as well. 

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by Richard Dane

I'd probably just keep the n-sats. I'd rather have them than the others (well ok, I do love Kans, but they can thrill and frustrate in equal measure sometimes). The n-sub is great. It must be worth getting fixed, surely? If the factory is too much, what about class A? 

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by Yetizone

If I was in your situation I think I’d keep hold of the n-Sats, especially as the piano black variants are pretty rare and have the potential to go up in value if they remain in good condition. 

Then if viable, get the nSub repaired (esp if finished in piano black also). But can imagine the reticence due to the hassle and cost involved.

Alternatively, perhaps a brand new B.K. Electronics sub - superb value (have a Gemini II in my AV system).

 

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by hungryhalibut

The nSats are superb with the nSub. You won't get the drive and scale from small speakers attached to the modestly powered Qute. I'd pay the £600, or whatever Class A charge, to have it fixed. 

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by Alfa4life

Just a thought, when I had my nSats and nSub on a Uniti it also suffered with a ground earth loop, it turned out to be a faulty power cord on the Uniti that was causing the problem so might be worth trying a different power cord on each first.

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by Crispin_Hill
Alfa4life posted:

Just a thought, when I had my nSats and nSub on a Uniti it also suffered with a ground earth loop, it turned out to be a faulty power cord on the Uniti that was causing the problem so might be worth trying a different power cord on each first.

Definately will try this and if it works will update the forum. I telephoned Naim's Steve and between us we tried every single variation other than this. I even tried earthing teh sub with a dedicated cable tot eh 'earth' on a mains-socket (just the earth cable. plug switched 'off') but no. I have alternative cables to play around with - it's gotta be worth a try

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by Crispin_Hill
Yetizone posted:

If I was in your situation I think I’d keep hold of the n-Sats, especially as the piano black variants are pretty rare and have the potential to go up in value if they remain in good condition. 

Then if viable, get the nSub repaired (esp if finished in piano black also). But can imagine the reticence due to the hassle and cost involved.

Alternatively, perhaps a brand new B.K. Electronics sub - superb value (have a Gemini II in my AV system).

 

Okay - maybe I'm not being fair on the nSat's. I just figured... "maybe I can save some floor space and have a pair of bookshelves with adequate bass and drive which will fo the job... do I really even NEED a Sub?... it's not like I'm watch 'Black Hawk Down' that often that I need the house to shake when the helicopter is landing...:-)". Yes my Sub is Piano Black... not quite clear the references earlier to Class A but will look at possible other subs and  alternatives if any to sending this back to Naim

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by james n

Class A is a Naim authorised service centre - Google 'class a naim'. 

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by hungryhalibut

The nSub enhances all music played via the sats, even music with no obvious bass, such as solo violin. For the £600 cost of fixing the nSub you are not going to find an alternative that’s as good, nor one that will pair with the sats so prefectly. 

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by Yetizone
Crispin_Hill posted:
Yetizone posted:

If I was in your situation I think I’d keep hold of the n-Sats, especially as the piano black variants are pretty rare and have the potential to go up in value if they remain in good condition. 

Then if viable, get the nSub repaired (esp if finished in piano black also). But can imagine the reticence due to the hassle and cost involved.

Alternatively, perhaps a brand new B.K. Electronics sub - superb value (have a Gemini II in my AV system).

 

Okay - maybe I'm not being fair on the nSat's. I just figured... "maybe I can save some floor space and have a pair of bookshelves with adequate bass and drive which will fo the job... do I really even NEED a Sub?... it's not like I'm watch 'Black Hawk Down' that often that I need the house to shake when the helicopter is landing...:-)". Yes my Sub is Piano Black... not quite clear the references earlier to Class A but will look at possible other subs and  alternatives if any to sending this back to Naim

A matching set of piano black n-Sub & n-Sats? Definitely get keep the n-Sub and get it repaired (if the cable swap doesn’t solve the earth loop). That’s a pretty rare combination!

Moderated Post: Edited. Yetizone, please respect forum rules.  Thanks.

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by Innocent Bystander

Have you tried the N-sats without the sub?  If you like that stop there. (If not so good, others have made the obvious suggestion)

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by Yetizone
A matching set of piano black n-Sub & n-Sats? Definitely get keep the n-Sub and get it repaired (if the cable swap doesn’t solve the earth loop). That’s a pretty rare combination!

Moderated Post: Edited. Yetizone, please respect forum rules.  Thanks.

Oops - Sorry Richard.

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by Donkeyhaute
 

BTW... “Guru Juniors”: Might as well not exist anymore (went into liquidation... then made in China)

 

 

Hi there.

As a multiple Guru owner, this is not my experience of recent events. Indeed, I've been in touch with Erik from Stockholm and things seems to be back up and running again.

Also, a friend of mine, and fellow forum member, has been shown the prototypes of the new QM60s (he has the originals in his system). The new website is http://guruaudio.com

I can certainly vouch for them at the end of the Uniti range, as can others on here.

 

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by Crispin_Hill
Donkeyhaute posted:
 

BTW... “Guru Juniors”: Might as well not exist anymore (went into liquidation... then made in China)

 

 

Hi there.

As a multiple Guru owner, this is not my experience of recent events. Indeed, I've been in touch with Erik from Stockholm and things seems to be back up and running again.

Also, a friend of mine, and fellow forum member, has been shown the prototypes of the new QM60s (he has the originals in his system). The new website is http://guruaudio.com

I can certainly vouch for them at the end of the Uniti range, as can others on here.

 

Are they being manufactured in Sweden again? Ironically, the source of my comment here came from talking to Guru’s UK agent stayed in their website. For what it’s worth, I’d love to listen to a pair but cannot find them anywhere... except the comments on this forum.

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by Crispin_Hill
Richard Dane posted:

I'd probably just keep the n-sats. I'd rather have them than the others (well ok, I do love Kans, but they can thrill and frustrate in equal measure sometimes). The n-sub is great. It must be worth getting fixed, surely? If the factory is too much, what about class A? 

The shop... Class A... unfortunately don’t service the Sub. The nSub must go to Salisbury 

Posted on: 07 November 2017 by Donkeyhaute
 

Are they being manufactured in Sweden again? Ironically, the source of my comment here came from talking to Guru’s UK agent stayed in their website. For what it’s worth, I’d love to listen to a pair but cannot find them anywhere... except the comments on this forum.

Yes they are. The Juniors, the new Qm10 Mk IIIs and the Qm60 MkIIs. Along with new speaker cable and stands. They are well worth a listen, and, given the relative rarity of the first batch, a safe bet to pass on if you are lucky enough to find a pair on an auction site. They match extremely well with my original Uniti, and now with my SU and NAP 250 (Qm10s) and I'm sure will do well with your Qute. Again, search the forum for fellow owners - they have a unique sound - not very hifi, which is to their credit.

Higher up the chain, a friend has the QM60s on the end of a 282, PS, DR250 and other bits and bobs (LP12 and also a valve pre and some Vitus gear) and he adores them.

Posted on: 08 November 2017 by ryder.
Crispin_Hill posted:

Speaker help please! I have a UnitiQute 2. I have nSats and nSub. Unfortunately, my nSub has gone nSplat! Sub developed a “ground earth loop” and £600 to return and repair. So I’m thinking... sell the piano-black nSats and move on... 

Must haves: mine is a small / medium living room. Must be placed close to rear wall. Will sit on shelf (maybe wall mount). Electronic music and vocals. 

Let us say that for £700 I could buy myself as ‘used’ either:

1)  Neat Petite SX

2) Rega RX1

3) PMC Twenty.21

4) Linn Kan’s Mk1 - a bit cheaper 

5) Totem Rainmakers (if I can find some used ones) - a bit over budget 

... if I have to, I can take the NAP150x off my DacV1 for essential oomph but I’d rather not

BTW... “Guru Juniors”: Might as well not exist anymore (went into liquidation... then made in China)

thanks!

 

6. Dali Mentor Menuet or the latest Menuet.

These can be placed close to the wall, wall-mounted or sit on a shelf.

Posted on: 08 November 2017 by Bob the Builder

I had QM10'S on a UQ great sound they do struggle at volume in larger rooms though mine blew in the end (but with a Nap 200 not UQ) I still sold them for 70% of what I paid though. I have just bought a pair of Royd Edens for £100 well £80 plus postage I remember hearing those back in the 90's and loving them but they are suited to analogue though.