Silver Din Interlink

Posted by: BenNLCH on 12 November 2017

Good day all Naim users.

i use a Supernait 2 with a NDX, and till now i used the original Din Interlink ( grey one ) of Naim.

Yesterday i bought a Full silver DIN hand made Din Interlink,

I always thought that full silver is the best you can use, but the sound quality was going down, 

High tones very clear, very crispy but middle tones almost gone, listening to Dave Brubeck Take five the piano was almost complete gone with the silver cable,

Has anybody the same experience, maybe handmade is not so good as in a factory, maybe oxidation.

any advise maybe to use a Hi Line instead ?

Ben

Posted on: 12 November 2017 by The Strat (Fender)

My experience is that Naim interconnects work best between Naim electronics.  

Posted on: 12 November 2017 by james n

Might be worth giving it a few days to see if it improves. Otherwise just heed the advice above 

Posted on: 12 November 2017 by Finkfan

I tried a couple of different hand built silver interconnects and couldn’t get on with them at all. I stuck with the lavender till a TQ black diamond din came up. 

Posted on: 12 November 2017 by Mike-B

All DIN cables are 'handmade',  in a factory with maybe an assembly gig,  or at home, or in a service shop,  it makes no difference provided it done correctly,  in electrical parameter terms there is not that much difference between silver & copper.      I used to have a silver IC between CDX2 & Supernait,  they had normal mid & bass.     If the sound is so badly affected with your cables as you describe I suspect an assembly error.     What do the cables look like,  do you have a manufacturer name and/or picture.  

Posted on: 12 November 2017 by BenNLCH

hello, the cable is from a local supplier, makes cables on wish, 

he use to be a Naim reseller.

the normal price is around 600 euro, only he offered by Ebay with start price 100 euro, and i was the only one, 

it was not only this cable i could choose, so it was not a bad cable, he i had the change to took, 80 cm, 1 meter, 1.20 m, i took the 1 meter one.

 

 

 

Posted on: 12 November 2017 by Mike-B

OK that tells me nothing,  I need a www link to the dealer or a picture,  maybe the city/country & I can search

Posted on: 12 November 2017 by Richard Dane

But no links here please, thanks.

Posted on: 13 November 2017 by NJB

I have tried silver interconnections and speaker cables a few times. Each time I think that my memory is wrong and that they were not as I imagined. Wrong. Silver vs copper is an old chestnut. Silver is as bright as its name suggests, and copper is just so mellow and balanced. Put silver into an already bright system and you are going to have the same feeling as being sat in the dentist chair!

Posted on: 13 November 2017 by hungryhalibut

SL speaker cables are made from silver coated copper. The Ethernet cables I use also have a silver content. As with anything, there are doubtless cables and cables. 

Posted on: 13 November 2017 by Mike-B

Yes silver vs copper is an old chestnut,  but the nut contains more myth, hearsay & rumours than fact.  I’ve tried silver in various places numbers of times & have silver plated speaker cables right now.   They tend to have a lighter brighter sound,  yes, but they do not differ so much from copper.   I agree they might push an already bright or sibilant system over the top,  but they do not suppress bass as per the OP description.

Posted on: 13 November 2017 by NJB

Silver is a better conductor than copper, but copper is the best ‘bang for your buck’ solution.  A quick google suggests that copper conductivity with higher frequencies tends to roll off quicker than silver.  It could be that we are sensitive to this increase in the amount of higher frequency signal coming through.  One idea that I had is that it is possible that while we can only hear frequencies up to a limit (unfortunately, at my age, that is already decreasing), significant signal power above that limit can cause listening fatigue and thus a negative reaction.

Posted on: 13 November 2017 by Huge
NJB posted:

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A quick google suggests that copper conductivity with higher frequencies tends to roll off quicker than silver.
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Interesting, I always thought you could perfectly happily transmit UHF television signals (>500MHz) through copper.

Posted on: 13 November 2017 by Mike-B

Just so Huge,   in audio interconnect terms there is diddly squat difference between silver & copper resistance; I’m away from home at mo so can’t connnect to www to get data,  but it’s easy enough to find.

Posted on: 13 November 2017 by ChrisR_EPL

Does it revert back to normal by swapping the leads back?

Or... I've just put an enormous amount of life back into my setup by giving each connector a squirt of switch cleaner and sliding a connector  [spkr, DIN, RCA] in & out a few times. That and a dose of Etox in both ears. Couldn't swear which had the greatest effect, but the stereo was definitely off the boil before it and everyday hearing hasn't noticeably changed.