Warning - Don't Start a Thread with the Word 'Blimey': Topic - The PS555DR

Posted by: nigelb on 25 November 2017

The last (and only) two topics that started with the word 'Blimey' have been shut down by the Moderator for different (but valid) reasons.  Richard has suggested I start another thread so here goes.

My 'Blimey' topic was primarily about the wonders of the PS555DR which I am trialling at home. You may recall how I waxed lyrical about how wonderful some well-known (to me) artists sound with the addition of the 555DR, namely Chris Stapleton, Dianna Krall, Lizz wright and I can now add to this list Gregory Porter and Antonio Forcione. That is only after the first day of listening.

I thought I knew the work of these artists fairly well but the 555DR just adds another dimension which I can only lamely describe as 'realism'. That is a simple term that encapsulates many improved areas of enhanced performance which I can't articulate well. I know HH ran out of ways of describing what the 555DR and 300DR did in his home and I am beginning to understand why.

The addition of the 555DR and the uplift that has resulted is of course attributable to the rest of the system also. I never realised what the NDS/252/250DR/MA speakers/SL full loom were really capable of in my home until I added the 555DR. It also highlights the importance of 'component matching' and the benefit of removing a weak link from a system.

Look, if this topic really has run its course then let this thread die in peace but if there is life in it I would welcome the views of others. But please no wild and bizarre diversions nor talk of power supplies built in sheds or you know what will happen.

I have just realised that I have used the dreaded 'B' word in the thread title so maybe the writing is on the wall.

Posted on: 28 November 2017 by nigelb
The Strat (Fender) posted:

NigelB - I have no doubt as to what the 555PSU has brought in terms of improvement indeed I have just experienced something similar with changing the PSU on the Roksan.   But I think on something more important when you refer to how it all gels together - synergy is everything.  

So just to stir things up a little you give Reference to the size limitations of your listening area.   I therefore predict you ain’t heard nothing yet - just wait until the 707s arrive

Unfortunately the 707s are out of the question cost grounds alone. Maybe 606s sometime down the road when we have moved to a place with a bigger listening room which will hopefully happen in the not to distant future. But I still have a lot of negotiating (at home) to swing the 555. So I am not getting ahead of myself. 

I think what you say about synergy is spot on and I feel I have just removed a massive weak link that is now allowing all my component to work together so much better.

Posted on: 28 November 2017 by The Strat (Fender)
Haim Ronen posted:

I think that says it all:

I have it on good authority that fish don’t have feelings. 

Posted on: 29 November 2017 by Innocent Bystander
The Strat (Fender) posted:

I have it on good authority that fish don’t have feelings. 

Is that good authority by any chance coarse fishers who fish for sport and return the fish to the water after catching?

I thought I had it on good authority many years ago that fish do not have memories, but that is clearly wrong.

Posted on: 29 November 2017 by Huge

The Orca would have to be:

NDS / 2 x 555; 552 / 555, SNAXO / SC; 3 x 500s

Not quite the heaviest thing out there (that's the Statement), but not that far off, however it's rather more temperamental, and also very fast.

Posted on: 29 November 2017 by yeti42
Huge posted:

The Orca would have to be:

NDS / 2 x 555; 552 / 555, SNAXO / SC; 3 x 500s

Not quite the heaviest thing out there (that's the Statement), but not that far off, however it's rather more temperamental, and also very fast.

If you substitute the 552 for a S1 you have the dorsal fin and the black and white. The 552 can't use a 555ps anyway. (have I pitched my analysis at the right level?)

Posted on: 29 November 2017 by Haim Ronen
The Strat (Fender) posted:
Haim Ronen posted:

I think that says it all:

I have it on good authority that fish don’t have feelings. 

I have it on good authority that fish and audiophiles have very similar brains.

Posted on: 29 November 2017 by nigelb

Whenever I hear the descriptors unforced, composed, natural, relaxed, control to describe a style of presentation from a hi fi system I usually yawn and think how boring. I want excitement, something that is impressive and blows your socks off. Don't I?

Well it seems I don't after the introduction of the 555DR on my NDS. Don't get me wrong this source pairing will wack you around the head when the music calls for it. But constant on-the-edge-of-your seat thrill seeking gets fatiguing and isn't always faithful to artists' intentions. When the goods are delivered on a plate without drama in a beautiful relaxed and natural way it is thrilling or rather a better word is enthralling. And now I seem want enthralling more than thrilling, possibly because I am becoming an old git, possibly because my taste in presentation of music is maturing. Who knows?

What I do know is I love what the 555DR has done. I am at this moment listening to one of my favourite albums, Kandace Springs' Soul Eyes. I have never heard these wonderful songs delivered with such expression, such intimacy. The music and lyrics just flow so naturally and each song means so much more. Yes, music is better conveyed and communicated to the listener and that is priceless in my book. I am able to relax more to music, possibly because there is less mental effort required to hear instruments, lyrics and the meaning of a songs is more obvious. As I have already said, it is all delivered on a plate with no (or rather less) effort needed by the listener.

Excitement now seems a little overrated. Now, time for a Horlicks and an early night.

Posted on: 29 November 2017 by kevin J Carden

Nicely put Nigel, but what’s with the early night? I think 552 needed 

Posted on: 29 November 2017 by Kiwi cat
nigelb posted:

Whenever I hear the descriptors unforced, composed, natural, relaxed, control to describe a style of presentation from a hi fi system I usually yawn and think how boring. I want excitement, something that is impressive and blows your socks off. Don't I?

Well it seems I don't after the introduction of the 555DR on my NDS. Don't get me wrong this source pairing will wack you around the head when the music calls for it. But constant on-the-edge-of-your seat thrill seeking gets fatiguing and isn't always faithful to artists' intentions. When the goods are delivered on a plate without drama in a beautiful relaxed and natural way it is thrilling or rather a better word is enthralling. And now I seem want enthralling more than thrilling, possibly because I am becoming an old git, possibly because my taste in presentation of music is maturing. Who knows?

What I do know is I love what the 555DR has done. I am at this moment listening to one of my favourite albums, Kandace Springs' Soul Eyes. I have never heard these wonderful songs delivered with such expression, such intimacy. The music and lyrics just flow so naturally and each song means so much more. Yes, music is better conveyed and communicated to the listener and that is priceless in my book. I am able to relax more to music, possibly because there is less mental effort required to hear instruments, lyrics and the meaning of a songs is more obvious. As I have already said, it is all delivered on a plate with no (or rather less) effort needed by the listener.

Excitement now seems a little overrated. Now, time for a Horlicks and an early night.

Yes Nigel, well described. The 555DR has made the music just flow more naturally. I was thinking the other day that my setup is not that "impressive" in a traditional hifi way. I guess a non hifi orientated person listening to it may not be that "impressed", but I treasure that relaxed and articulate presentation.

Posted on: 29 November 2017 by Kiwi cat

You are very kind Atherton and Nigel -B. But I will take a pass, I have more important fish to fry!

Posted on: 29 November 2017 by hungryhalibut

Exactly so. You don’t want impressive. You want something that sounds real, and something that engages you and stirs your soul. My 555 is running in nicely and the music is just so much more engaging than before. Source upgrades do that. No amount of power amps and speakers can add what isn’t there in the first place. 

Posted on: 29 November 2017 by The Strat (Fender)

HH - true but a less than capable speaker can trap in what should flow from that source

Posted on: 30 November 2017 by nigelb

Dear Forumites,

Alas, it is time to bring this Blimey thread to a close for the following reasons:

  1. It is traditional now that Blimey threads are closed at a judicious point in time before they become too weird and so they can pass into the hereafter with their dignity intact (possibly a bit too that for this thread).
  2. Kiwi Cat has politely declined the mantle of King Fish that he so richly deserves so it appears the fish/hi fi anaology game has come to a natural end. (Yippee I hear some of you cry). In the immortal words of Brucey....'Good Game, Good Game.....Not Easy'.
  3. There is now a new Blimey kid on the block. GraemeH has just got himself a 555 and is sticking on his 272 as we speak. So it seems appropriate that we focus on his findings.
  4. Like HH before me, I have pretty well described the key revelations the 555 has brought to my system and to my listening pleasure.
  5. Some of the natives are getting restless and have already made it clear that this thread should have been moved to the wilderness that is the dreaded Padded Cell.

So Richard, in time honoured fashion, please would you kindly close this Blimey thread so that the new Blimey thread can flourish.

Thanks to those who have contributed.

Posted on: 30 November 2017 by yeti42

So long and thanks for all the fish.

Posted on: 30 November 2017 by Richard Dane

Nigel, of course, no problem.  Thread closed.