Swiss Army Knife Nac 272 - why do people sell it?

Look I know the 272 is an absolute mullet - basically a £50 DAC with a volume control - but in fairness there are more 282s out there for sale.  

By the the way I’m joking about the 272

What is going on with all these disappearing threads?

I was wondering too. But I know how complex moderating is.

The thread in question has been moved for review following a complaint. I will review and take any appropriate action once I’m back on s proper computer later today.

erm  I didn't catch that one. Which thread has been removed?

oh about this thread, selling/buying Naim is part of the Naim experience.

why would I sell my 282, well it would be a 252 or 552.

I can't see why anyone selling their 272 is an issue to deserve a thread.

People sell their cars ALL the time, ALL year long, so what?

Analogmusic,

When one is having an 282, the obvious step up is what you mention. This is indeed given as an argument on the 282's being for sale often. Regarding the 272, this is different. When having a 272, one can add a PS or switch to the analogue preamp series. But moving to the analogue preamps implies a massive amount of extra money for not so much difference.

Thinking about this thread, I think that the variety of arguments is bigger than other products.

“But moving to the analogue preamps implies a massive amount of extra money for not so much difference.”

Indeed Ime.

G

analogmusic posted:

erm  I didn't catch that one. Which thread has been removed?

Max B's Swiss Army Knife thread.

That thread was first moved to the padded cell, then complained about and provisionally removed. But just after I got in and posted. So, within a couple of days, in spite of my tentatives to be clear, sincere and explicative, I've been moved, moderated, and removed. Max_B's parts seemed to have run the gauntlet safely, that's why I think it's me. So, we have whiners and, in a way, delators. Mr Dane, this is becoming the job for a jailer, not a gentleman like you.

GraemeH posted:

“But moving to the analogue preamps implies a massive amount of extra money for not so much difference.”

Indeed Ime.

G

My wife just managed to negotiate a full re-decoration of the living and an holiday to the States for a Nac 272.

I'm going to rob the bank.

So you'll become a modern Macbeth. Congratulations.

The 272 is something of a dead end, though a happy one once a 555ps is added by all accounts but swiss army knife? It would need a powered socket for a phonostage to be truely adaptable and I suspect the digital power supplies aren’t suitable. As it is it’s like leaving the corkscrew off.

I thought Max had pulled his own thread after my comment, which I thought worked in so many ways and was only potentially slightly offensive in one of them which I thought worth the risk (the person concerned isn’t averse to dishing it out himself at times). I looked for it in the padded cell but didn’t catch it there to see if there was more added, pitty.

yeti42 posted:

It would need a powered socket for a phonostage to be truly adaptable and I suspect the digital power supplies aren’t suitable. As it isit’s like leaving the corkscrew off.

yeti42 posted:

I thought Max had pulled his own thread ...

For those who have left LP replay behind them - possibly more like leaving the 'thing for removing stones from horses' hooves'  beloved and unused by Boy Scouts of a certain age. 

yeti42 - is this really an appropriate comment?

Adam Meredith posted:

yeti42 posted:

It would need a powered socket for a phonostage to be truly adaptable and I suspect the digital power supplies aren’t suitable. As it isit’s like leaving the corkscrew off.

yeti42 posted:

I thought Max had pulled his own thread ...

 

For those who have left LP replay behind them - possibly more like leaving the 'thing for removing stones from horses' hooves'  beloved and unused by Boy Scouts of a certain age. 

yeti42 - is this really an appropriate comment?

 

I stand by corkscrew, the modern way is a screwcap, the analogy fits.

yeti42 posted:

The 272 is something of a dead end, though a happy one once a 555ps is added by all accounts but swiss army knife?...... ....

I thought Max had pulled his own thread after my comment, which I thought worked in so many ways and was only potentially slightly offensive in one of them which I thought worth the risk (the person concerned isn’t averse to dishing it out himself at times).

{I looked for it in the padded cell but didn’t catch it there to see if there was more added, pitty.}

It's still there, I was the 4th member to reply, after my reply was removed from this thread!

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Allante93!

PS. The Padded Cell!

I have been directly or indirectly quoted in the last 5 posts and haven't understood anything about any of them (including, and this I am sorry of, but he's rather cryptical and circumlocutory sometimes for me, Adam's ones).

I suspect this means that my therapy is finally beginning to work.

Max

Those who have sold them are maybe miffed that you need to spend the same again and double the same again to get the best out of it. 

Not everyone is acquiescent with Naims methodology regarding power supplies.

Although that would seem bizarre, as the funds lost from first purchase selling on could have been put towards the power supply.    Perhaps some people have more common money than common sense.  

I think It really boils down to the fact that these peeps maybe didn't do a home demo and just shows the importance of it,

1 The sound in there room/house

2, the functionality of it and how they replay music day to day (which really you only find living with the machine).

For me, I looked at it and thought (though probably wrongly and very cynically) "how long would Naim carry on supporting such a device" hence my move away from the Uniti series too a DAC v1 and nap 200.

The Dac V1 is still on my list too. The good: is has a pre-amp and a very good usb input. The bad: it can't be upgraded by a PS. I also doubt if it is on the level of my poweramps / speakers.

Ardbeg10y posted:

The Dac V1 is still on my list too. The good: is has a pre-amp and a very good usb input. The bad: it can't be upgraded by a PS. I also doubt if it is on the level of my poweramps / speakers.

Might not be up to the level your used too but never the less very enjoyable, as they say there’s always something/someone better! But as always a cost associated with that. I also find the move up and down digital sources harder to define and hear,  so you may be surprised. But obviously can be inserted into other systems if need be with much better preamps (?) so in my view a much more future proof perchase. Not mention a cracking headphone amp. ( sorry for any grammar and spelling mistakes in advance writing this on my phone)

And the s/h prices have gone down significantly since the success of the mojo / hugo.

Ardbeg10y posted:

And the s/h prices have gone down significantly since the success of the mojo / hugo.

Although based on ebay sold prices  s/h prices for Hugo 1 are now c£650 and falling, less than s/h Naim DAC V1 at c£700 + so your causal relationship could be the inverse, although I suspect neither would be correct.