Tellurium + Lumina

I have tried mixing TQ with SL cables and it just doesn’t work sadly. Also as you said TQ don’t make a cable from Pre amp to power amp making a full TQ loom impossible. 

Agree with Finkfan 

Mort2k posted:

Evening All

Just want to see the thought of combining Tellurium speaker cables with Lumina Interconnects ?

Now i am going active the timeline to buying 4 x 4m runs of Lumina Speaker cable is a long way of. Also I understand they dont do an XLR cable that would go from SuperCap to NAP250 making 'Full Loom' type usage impossible. Having tested and proven the benefits to myself of the Lumina interconnect and XLR i would not want to be without. 

So would SL Interconnect + XLR + Tullurium Black2 speaker cabel work well together ? Anyone tried this ?

The other choice is another run of A5 for now and save for Lumina speaker cable

Thanks

Rob

 

Not so, Rob.  I used an SL XLR between my 282/SC and 250.2 before I upgraded the 250.2 to a 300DR when I also needed to exchange the single SL XLR for a pair.   

Mort2k (Rob), we have similar systems (only S/L DIN interconnect though), question, did you do your S/L interconnects together or individually, particularly keen to hear your (or any persons) impressions on the XLR as this is probably my next upgrade, I know S/L speaker cables is the most popular upgrade then followed by DIN/XLR interconnects for a full S/L loom. 5m S/L speaker cable is certainly up there in costs, although my listening impressions sure think it's worth the expenditure, but just to far for me, maybe 2018 

Thanks

Paul 

MDS posted:

Mort2k posted:

Evening All

Just want to see the thought of combining Tellurium speaker cables with Lumina Interconnects ?

Now i am going active the timeline to buying 4 x 4m runs of Lumina Speaker cable is a long way of. Also I understand they dont do an XLR cable that would go from SuperCap to NAP250 making 'Full Loom' type usage impossible. Having tested and proven the benefits to myself of the Lumina interconnect and XLR i would not want to be without. 

So would SL Interconnect + XLR + Tullurium Black2 speaker cabel work well together ? Anyone tried this ?

The other choice is another run of A5 for now and save for Lumina speaker cable

Thanks

Rob

 

Not so, Rob.  I used an SL XLR between my 282/SC and 250.2 before I upgraded the 250.2 to a 300DR when I also needed to exchange the single SL XLR for a pair.   

MDS. 

Sorry i meant Tellurium don’t do an XLR to allow a comparable full loom type setup. Hence needing to possibly mix 

Rob

Mort2k posted:

MDS posted:

Mort2k posted:

Evening All

Just want to see the thought of combining Tellurium speaker cables with Lumina Interconnects ?

Now i am going active the timeline to buying 4 x 4m runs of Lumina Speaker cable is a long way of. Also I understand they dont do an XLR cable that would go from SuperCap to NAP250 making 'Full Loom' type usage impossible. Having tested and proven the benefits to myself of the Lumina interconnect and XLR i would not want to be without. 

So would SL Interconnect + XLR + Tullurium Black2 speaker cabel work well together ? Anyone tried this ?

The other choice is another run of A5 for now and save for Lumina speaker cable

Thanks

Rob

 

Not so, Rob.  I used an SL XLR between my 282/SC and 250.2 before I upgraded the 250.2 to a 300DR when I also needed to exchange the single SL XLR for a pair.   

MDS. 

 

Sorry i meant Tellurium don’t do an XLR to allow a comparable full loom type setup. Hence needing to possibly mix 

 

Rob

Ah! Ok.

Can't advise on your main question but I have used Tellurium speaker cable in the past with my Naim system and I think it works well. 

Lifesabreeze posted:

Mort2k (Rob), we have similar systems (only S/L DIN interconnect though), question, did you do your S/L interconnects together or individually, particularly keen to hear your (or any persons) impressions on the XLR as this is probably my next upgrade, I know S/L speaker cables is the most popular upgrade then followed by DIN/XLR interconnects for a full S/L loom. 5m S/L speaker cable is certainly up there in costs, although my listening impressions sure think it's worth the expenditure, but just to far for me, maybe 2018 

Thanks

Paul 

Paul

I have done quite a bit of testing and can confirm all 3 cable types (speaker/interconnect/xlr) open up the sound stage  I did notice that the XLR seemed to make more of an improvement than just the speaker cable. That said I liked the interconnect the most as a single option. Full loom seems to bring some synergy though.

Rob

How have you managed the lack of TQ preamp to poweramp interconnect problem in your system FinkFan?

Mort2k posted:

Lifesabreeze posted:

Mort2k (Rob), we have similar systems (only S/L DIN interconnect though), question, did you do your S/L interconnects together or individually, particularly keen to hear your (or any persons) impressions on the XLR as this is probably my next upgrade, I know S/L speaker cables is the most popular upgrade then followed by DIN/XLR interconnects for a full S/L loom. 5m S/L speaker cable is certainly up there in costs, although my listening impressions sure think it's worth the expenditure, but just to far for me, maybe 2018 

Thanks

Paul 

Paul

I have done quite a bit of testing and can confirm all 3 cable types (speaker/interconnect/xlr) open up the sound stage  I did notice that the XLR seemed to make more of an improvement than just the speaker cable. That said I liked the interconnect the most as a single option. Full loom seems to bring some synergy though.

Rob

Not forgetting a set of speaker jumper cables, for those of us with twin terminal speakers.

A touch obsessive maybe, but they worked for me. 

I’d be inclined to get an NDS/555 before SL leads, especially if you are going active. Four SL speaker leads are a lot of money. I really like what SL does, and wouldn’t want to be without it. It was one of the reasons I chose a 300 rather than two 250s. 

Mayor West posted:

How have you managed the lack of TQ preamp to poweramp interconnect problem in your system FinkFan?

I use a hatpin 4x at the moment. 

Hungryhalibut posted:

I’d be inclined to get an NDS/555 before SL leads, especially if you are going active. Four SL speaker leads are a lot of money. I really like what SL does, and wouldn’t want to be without it. It was one of the reasons I chose a 300 rather than two 250s. 

HH

That may very well be the route. Just like exploring options. 

Rob

I use SL DIN to Din, standard DIN to XLR and TQ black speaker cable all sounds great here. I’m sure it would sound better with all SL but I have no complaints.

I also have three way speakers and use TQ black links. These made a nice difference over the standard PMC metal bars. Links aren’t available in SL I believe.

IanG posted:

I use SL DIN to Din, standard DIN to XLR and TQ black speaker cable all sounds great here. I’m sure it would sound better with all SL but I have no complaints.

I also have three way speakers and use TQ black links. These made a nice difference over the standard PMC metal bars. Links aren’t available in SL I believe.

Tom Tom Audio can supply SL links, and though they're not cheap, I felt that they added something to the existing full SL loom.

IanG posted:

I use SL DIN to Din, standard DIN to XLR and TQ black speaker cable all sounds great here. I’m sure it would sound better with all SL but I have no complaints.

I also have three way speakers and use TQ black links. These made a nice difference over the standard PMC metal bars. Links aren’t available in SL I believe.

Thanks that offers some hope  

Rob

Finkfan posted:

Mayor West posted:

How have you managed the lack of TQ preamp to poweramp interconnect problem in your system FinkFan?

I use a hatpin 4x at the moment. 

Hi

How did you find the hatpin over the standard XLR ? Significant stepup or a minor one ?

cheers

Rob

dave marshall posted:

IanG posted:

I use SL DIN to Din, standard DIN to XLR and TQ black speaker cable all sounds great here. I’m sure it would sound better with all SL but I have no complaints.

I also have three way speakers and use TQ black links. These made a nice difference over the standard PMC metal bars. Links aren’t available in SL I believe.

Tom Tom Audio can supply SL links, and though they're not cheap, I felt that they added something to the existing full SL loom.

The SL links are a standard item on the Naim price list, for the princely sum of £999 per pair. At that price it might be worth asking the speaker manufacturer to internally rewire the crossover to avoid the need to use the biwire terminals, unless you feel confident to do it yourself of course. 

Mort2k posted:

Finkfan posted:

Mayor West posted:

How have you managed the lack of TQ preamp to poweramp interconnect problem in your system FinkFan?

I use a hatpin 4x at the moment. 

Hi

 

How did you find the hatpin over the standard XLR ? Significant stepup or a minor one ?

cheers

Rob

 

A very minor lift in detail ime between 272/250DR. It’s a nicely made flexible cable.

G

GraemeH posted:

Mort2k posted:

Finkfan posted:

Mayor West posted:

How have you managed the lack of TQ preamp to poweramp interconnect problem in your system FinkFan?

I use a hatpin 4x at the moment. 

Hi

 

How did you find the hatpin over the standard XLR ? Significant stepup or a minor one ?

cheers

Rob

 

A very minor lift in detail ime between 272/250DR. It’s a nicely made flexible cable.

G

 

As Graeme says a minor lift in all areas I felt. I didn’t expect too much for the price but I did feel it was value for money. 

Thanks gents.

I hadn’t realised the links are available.

I need a 5m run of speaker cable so with the links that’s £5250 for me. I’m not sure the speakers cost me that much. I’ll stick with the TQ for now