Nap 200 , wich pre ?

No.   The 202 has a far bigger soundstage and will reveal far more of the music.  Incidentally the 122 is not produced anymore.

Good luck,

Lindsay 

What are you doing for a DAC, keeping the V1 or something else? 

If you can afford it, I'd go for the 282. It can take a variety of PSUs and in my opinion is the best VFM pre-amp in the range. A real taste of the high-end. If you can't afford new, I suspect there are pre-loved 282s to be found. 

Or sell the V1 and put funds + 202 fund towards 272?

G

yeti42 posted:

What are you doing for a DAC, keeping the V1 or something else? 

For now  , hold the V1 

ok  ......Nac 202 search  , 282 is over budget for me  

GraemeH posted:

Or sell the V1 and put funds + 202 fund towards 272?

G

+1

Are you thinking new or 2nd hand?

The answer is the nac552 of course.

i will let you in on a secret the more expensive the pre amp the better the sound, not many know that so keep it to yourself.

I had a good few years with the 202 and was very happy with the end result.I then listened to a 282 and was taken a back at the difference of music replay.I know it's twice the price but personally think as stated above it's a gem of a pre amp.If time isn't a factor keep your eye open for a 282,you won't regret it.

Have you tried a 122? I've lived with it and 202 and it certainly isn't more open and detailed, the 202 is better in all departments to my ears. 

Several 282s in the flea pit but it really requires a better source.   It really depends on the OPs intended end game because a 272 could be what he’s looking for.  

Regards,

Lindsay

Another 272 vote.

A used 202 can be had for around £8-900 from a dealer, a 272 or 282 will be nearer £2.5k used, that’s some stretch. To those that know it, would an 82 work well with a V1 with a step to a better DAC some time in the future?

Sell the DAC V1 and get a 272.

Keep the v1 and get a 202

i got both 202 and 282. 

I still love my 202 very much and it works very well with a 200

Thank you guys  .....

Certainly , the 272 is the finish line  , but  I  live in Italy and  here the V1 is not popupalar ( difficult to sell ) , is more easy to keep the V1 and go for a 2'nd hand  202 , theoretically the pre section of the 272/202 sould be the same and for the streamer section I use a sotm sms-200 ( a superb network player )

Lots of good suggestions but i'm curious as to where you are trying to get to with your proposed changes T@rmac ?

To me, adding the 202 seems to be a bit of a sideways move when you've already got a decent preamp section in the DAC-V1. If you want to make the most of your digital sources then the suggestion of the 272 seems to make a lot more sense.

It would be good to know a bit more about your plans, what are your main sources, speakers etc 

James

James , my main source is a sms-200 ( Sotm ) connected to the V1 and  the speakers are  http://www.audiojam2.com/doc/Atlantys_grand_documento_sito.pdf 

Is the  V1 pre section almost good as the 202 ? So is better to wait  and go to a 272 ?

MDS posted:

If you can afford it, I'd go for the 282. It can take a variety of PSUs and in my opinion is the best VFM pre-amp in the range. A real taste of the high-end. If you can't afford new, I suspect there are pre-loved 282s to be found. 

I would support this advice. The 282 is a great companion of the 200. Had it for some time in my own setup and brought the music really to life.

I had the v1 and still have my 202

no the preamp section of v1 isn’t that special at all

the 202 is much superior

t@rmac posted:

James , my main source is a sms-200 ( Sotm ) connected to the V1 and  the speakers are  http://www.audiojam2.com/doc/Atlantys_grand_documento_sito.pdf 

Is the  the V1 pre section almost good as the 202 ? So is better to wait  and go to a 272 ?

The 202 is the 'better' pre-amp but i don't think you'd gain that much over the V1 itself, hence my sideways move comments. Best you get a demo of the options and then decide what works best for you. 

James

analogmusic posted:

I had the v1 and still have my 202

no the preamp section of v1 isn’t that special at all

the 202 is much superior

Difference :   Stage ?  Details ?  Bass control ?

Stage and details

thanks

Using a V1, which includes a preamp, with another preamp, makes no sense to me. My suggestion would be to sell the SOtM and the V1, and get a 272. It’s a better preamp than a 202 and will give a better sound from a single box. That said, if Roon is essential, the SOtM handles it but the 272 doesn’t.