Naim new products 2018

badlands posted:

Anything that will give them as much profit as the SL cables do. Maybe Naim cable lifters or cable dividers. Something along these lines, and sell it for a couple grand for package of two. Put the Naim name on it and watch the people swoon. They will of course  have  that certain synergy with the SL cables that no other cable lifters can provide. If they use my idea, I'll only take a 5% cut!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you find these cables lifters silly but personally i use them to decouple my burndys from the floor and from themselves.  I know, with some pieces of wood and appropriate tools you can make them for no money. But i am lazy and have no tools....

I've absolutely no idea if Naim has anything in the pipeline for 2018 but I'd love to see them bring out an in-house range of active loudspeakers that would integrate with a 272 for example for a "proper" one box system.  

By in-house I mean sans Focal and the icing on the cake would be modular amps to allow upgrades/DR'ing etc.

Happy New Year to all.

The Strat (Fender) posted:

badlands posted:

Anything that will give them as much profit as the SL cables do. Maybe Naim cable lifters or cable dividers. Something along these lines, and sell it for a couple grand for package of two. Put the Naim name on it and watch the people swoon. They will of course  have  that certain synergy with the SL cables that no other cable lifters can provide. If they use my idea, I'll only take a 5% cut!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Badlands - fair enough that you like to challenge what you to believe to be the excesses of the Industry but frankly such is your cynicism and obvious disdain for the company I’m surprised you continue to post here. 

Strat, it's called humor, try not to take everything you see here so literally!

My Whish list : 

A top class headphone amp with high Folcal range synergy.

A 372 with a non dropping Tidal 

badlands posted:

The Strat (Fender) posted:

badlands posted:

Anything that will give them as much profit as the SL cables do. Maybe Naim cable lifters or cable dividers. Something along these lines, and sell it for a couple grand for package of two. Put the Naim name on it and watch the people swoon. They will of course  have  that certain synergy with the SL cables that no other cable lifters can provide. If they use my idea, I'll only take a 5% cut!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Badlands - fair enough that you like to challenge what you to believe to be the excesses of the Industry but frankly such is your cynicism and obvious disdain for the company I’m surprised you continue to post here. 

Strat, it's called humor, try not to take everything you see here so literally!

My God,  is this  modern world where people support and defend commercial companies as if they were football teams?  Naim Audio is a business company whose aim is to make money and it will take that money from you even without the show of blind obedience I promise.

I won't suggest specific products, but generally a future trend beyond 2018 towards more Class D amplification products and introduction of room correction software in streamers. I think that Focal's influence and Naim's future viability beyond the baby boomers demands these additions to the product line.

Personally would like to see a new streaming pre-amp to replace the 272. Maybe it will be a 372N ? 

Some investment into analogue sources would be nice an Aro 2 or a Prefix 2 and a revamp of the stageline phono stages. As mentioned above separate two box streaming solutions that could be used and integrated with other brands would also be nice.

A six box 500 level streamer.

A gold plated Muso for the Asian markets.

An eight box Statement streamer.

Super Lumina Light cables.

Bob the Builder posted:

badlands posted:

The Strat (Fender) posted:

badlands posted:

Anything that will give them as much profit as the SL cables do. Maybe Naim cable lifters or cable dividers. Something along these lines, and sell it for a couple grand for package of two. Put the Naim name on it and watch the people swoon. They will of course  have  that certain synergy with the SL cables that no other cable lifters can provide. If they use my idea, I'll only take a 5% cut!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Badlands - fair enough that you like to challenge what you to believe to be the excesses of the Industry but frankly such is your cynicism and obvious disdain for the company I’m surprised you continue to post here. 

Strat, it's called humor, try not to take everything you see here so literally!

My God,  is this  modern world where people support and defend commercial companies as if they were football teams?  Naim Audio is a business company whose aim is to make money and it will take that money from you even without the show of blind obedience I promise.

It just depends how often the joke is repeated of course.  

Bob the Builder posted:

Some investment into analogue sources would be nice an Aro 2 or a Prefix 2 and a revamp of the stageline phono stages. As mentioned above separate two box streaming solutions that could be used and integrated with other brands would also be nice.

And on that Bob we agree - alas Naim’s support for Analogue is minimal these days.   

Regards,

Lindsay

Bob the Builder posted:

My God,  is this  modern world where people support and defend commercial companies as if they were football teams?

If there is something a commercial company, it is a football team, given the outrageous transfer sums / salaries. This understanding is the only thing what possibly could convert me in an anti-kapitalist.

The Strat (Fender) posted:

Bob the Builder posted:

Some investment into analogue sources would be nice an Aro 2 or a Prefix 2 and a revamp of the stageline phono stages. As mentioned above separate two box streaming solutions that could be used and integrated with other brands would also be nice.

And on that Bob we agree - alas Naim’s support for Analogue is minimal these days.   

Regards,

Lindsay

It would be nice to see a Naim tonearm in the shape of the Naim logo.

i still can't believe that naim has ignored the resurgence of vinyl? It is huge? Vinyl is everywhere and even those who know nothing about it seem interested.

People must be missing physical media and the interaction it brings with collecting. Not to mention that it sounds so much better than most other sources. 

ARO 2 must be a no brainer in this day and age, naim should even release a turntable. I'm sure that in the old days, they probably couldn't add more to vinyl replay than what the LP12 offered, but the ARO definitely has something to offer over the Linn arms.

Surely it couldn't be that much of a risk???

Mario.

Mario posted:

i still can't believe that naim has ignored the resurgence of vinyl? It is huge? Vinyl is everywhere and even those who know nothing about it seem interested.

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ARO 2 must be a no brainer in this day and age,.....

Always assuming that the expertise is available to design and build (and support) an ARO2. The latter day Guy Lamotte probably works for Apple or Google, or manages a hedge fund  ;-)

The Strat (Fender) posted:

Perol posted:

 

But most likely they have a Statement integrated coming soon.

 

And just how big/heavy will that be!?

Good question !

No idea if they will make it sized as a Statement preamp ? Perhaps a double Nova or 500

I'm sure though, there is a market niche for very expensive integrated amplifiers, why would they not try getting their share - certainly they will.

Ardbeg10y posted:

Perol posted:

... a selfpowered half width preamp to match the Nap 100.?

 

Dac-V1

Yep

I'm aware of the V1 and even UQ but as kind of replacement for 152/202 with analoq inputs

Mario posted:

i still can't believe that naim has ignored the resurgence of vinyl? It is huge? Vinyl is everywhere and even those who know nothing about it seem interested.

People must be missing physical media and the interaction it brings with collecting. Not to mention that it sounds so much better than most other sources. 

 ...

Mario.

 

 

Seconded Mario

Hence my suggestion for an analog half width preamp to replace 152/202, those 32.5 / 72 are becoming a bit old by now however a service is still another option

As I understand it the Aro was dropped because the expertise in the Organisation no longer existed to support it.  If Naim were to re-enter the vinyl market beyond the phono stages it would be a very considerable investment and not without risk.  Without having access to their business plan I would suggest that they are probably right to consolidate and develop their portfolio around their electronics and digital offerings.

Regards;

Lindsay 

I would like to see:

A standalone streamer (no DAC, amplifier or anything else) that you could add as an additional input to whatever system you have already got.  Ideally with a broader range of services including Qobuz.

Amplifiers with IP control, so that you could take a direct input from your streamer and control the volume via an iPad controlling the amplifier.  Ideally as a retro-fit to existing amplifiers.

The ARO is not rocket science, its main design feature is SIMPLICITY! 

It is very well thought out, very well made and works beautifully. We actually don't even need an ARO 2, bringing back the original would be enough and hard to improve on as it is such a perfectly simple design.

Don't tell me that a company that can deal with the complexity of Statement can't assemble a handful of parts that are ordered from another engineering firm any way.

Specs for every part already exist, they just have to be reordered and yes someone needs to be trained in assembling them. This is not an impossible task, and ARO's would be bought if they were made again.

Mario.

The Strat (Fender) posted:

Bob the Builder posted:

badlands posted:

The Strat (Fender) posted:

badlands posted:

Anything that will give them as much profit as the SL cables do. Maybe Naim cable lifters or cable dividers. Something along these lines, and sell it for a couple grand for package of two. Put the Naim name on it and watch the people swoon. They will of course  have  that certain synergy with the SL cables that no other cable lifters can provide. If they use my idea, I'll only take a 5% cut!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Badlands - fair enough that you like to challenge what you to believe to be the excesses of the Industry but frankly such is your cynicism and obvious disdain for the company I’m surprised you continue to post here. 

Strat, it's called humor, try not to take everything you see here so literally!

My God,  is this  modern world where people support and defend commercial companies as if they were football teams?  Naim Audio is a business company whose aim is to make money and it will take that money from you even without the show of blind obedience I promise.

It just depends how often the joke is repeated of course.  

Mario,

all good points.  However, for such a re-birth to be taken seriously, firstly, there has to be enough demand.  And by that I means enough to justify not just the investment in parts, which often have to be a one-off "lifetime buy" to make any sense, but also to justify the allocation of resources.  With the latter you have not just a personnel and training resource. Making the Aro consistently is something of an art and one that cannot easily just be taught to anyone - it takes time, feel, and experience.  And there's one more critical factor too - space. Everything in the Naim factory fights for its place and its space.  So, while I'm not saying it can't be done - I think it would be wonderful to bring back the Aro - there were solid business reasons why it was discontinued and I'm not entirely sure that the conditions have changed so much for the better to justify an about turn.  I'd love to be proved wrong though...

Richard I can recall the Bristol Show 2004? when it was mounted on the Avid.  As you say shame it didn’t sustain.   

The ND series will be "X" (axed)!