What do you put between stand mounted speakers and their stands?

I'm another one for Blutack, just a few mm on each corner with my PMC DB1i. Having said that I've never tried or compared it to anything else. 

Tried 4 no. small balls of blu tack, about 5mm in diameter under each speaker this evening. They squash down to about 1mm. Seems to work well. 

Btw have you ever tried mixing blu tack with washing liquid? Don't, it forms a sticky mess which you can't remove without getting it everywhere. Might be good fun if you give some to someone you don't like!

NewNaim16 posted:

I found that Herbie's Fat Dots gave a presentation that I preferred to Blu Tack. If you get some be sure to specify the sticky on one side option. No problems with staining or possibly tearing speaker veneer on removal either but of course the speakers could be more easily toppled. I tried 3 dots per speaker but thought it a tad risky so ended up with 4 dots on each, with the speaker centre of gravity over the stand centre.

+1 for Herbies Fat Dots , they do a great job and arrive swiftly from the US . 

5 stillpoints ultra 6 between each speaker and stand and 5 other under the stand.  so ten ultra 6 per speaker, quite a bargain.... nearly the price of blue tack

French Rooster posted:

5 stillpoints ultra 6 between each speaker and stand and 5 other under the stand.  so ten ultra 6 per speaker, quite a bargain.... nearly the price of blue tack

You must have one hell of a pair of speakers if you need £16000 worth of Blutac to support them 

ChrisSU posted:

French Rooster posted:

5 stillpoints ultra 6 between each speaker and stand and 5 other under the stand.  so ten ultra 6 per speaker, quite a bargain.... nearly the price of blue tack

You must have one hell of a pair of speakers if you need £16000 worth of Blutac to support them 

atc scm7 on 24 carat gold stands

Harbeth 30.1 on folding iron bookcases from the container store.Have to admit,I couldn't hear any difference when i weighed down the bookcase with books.However (and also no audible difference),I have silicone mats from a kitchen supply dept. for more isolation- works for me.

Small Raffia mats gave a nice laid back chilled out presentation when i had stans.

2  X 600 pounds aerate concrete under the stands....quite effective for my atc scm7 but my wife doesn’t want anymore to come in the living room, i don’t know why....

Blu-Tack works incredibly well in between my ATC SCM11 speakers and FS104 signature stands. 

Ian.

Innocent Bystander posted:

seakayaker posted:

BluTack - available at hifi shops and on the river........

If it costs more in hifi shops, would that mean it sounds better?

......not sure about your hifi shop, but mine was happy to set me up with some blue tack after picking up a pair of ProAc D2's and some stands.  

I would have had to pay for it on the river.

A little dab on all four corners held them firm on the stands and then came off without a trace when I traded them in. The price was right, the product worked well and when it was done the speakers were spotless......

ChrisSU posted:

French Rooster posted:

5 stillpoints ultra 6 between each speaker and stand and 5 other under the stand.  so ten ultra 6 per speaker, quite a bargain.... nearly the price of blue tack

You must have one hell of a pair of speakers if you need £16000 worth of Blutac to support them 

So 22 stillpoints ultra cost £16000?

Interesting the audiophile nervosa speculation surrounding Blu Tack. It's simply a reusable pressure-sensitive adhesive. The same type of thing I used as a teen in the 1970s to hang LP rock posters on my bedroom walls. A lifetime supply (provided you store it in an airtight sealed zip-lock bag) is available at a local hardware store for circa $5. Why shouldn't 'generous' dealers hand it out pro bono?

Will it harm the finish on the bottom of the speakers? Possibly, but it depends on how long it has been attached, and some prudent, gentle heating with a hairdryer when detaching the speakers can ameliorate some of that stress. As mentioned above, aside form the OCD factor, who fundamentally cares about three or four small blemishes on a speaker bottom when the speaker design requires attachment to stands in the first place?

Other audiophile uses for Blu Tack? Well, no way in hell I'd consider it to clean my stylus; however, it does serve a convenient vehicle for adding weight to a headshell when experimenting with potential arm compliance/cartridge matching issues. You can also stick a glob of Blue Tack anywhere in your system you suspect you have resonance or vibrations, such as on a glass self or box casing.

I also use blue tak between my Dynaudio stands and special 40s,always been happy with the result.I originally got some from my dealer too,but recently picked up some more at Canadian tire.The reason I got more is,I actually have just added some on top of my special 40s,To go between the speakers and some spare granite slabs I had sitting around.Another Dynaudio owner I know uses granite on top of his speakers to add weight to them,thought I would give it a try.Still trying to decide if I hear anything improved,but I think the bass seems to be fuller.I have also just ordered two sets of Isoacoustis GAIA 111s to go under my Dynaudio XD 600s,they go in place of the spikes,after reading great reviews about them.

It might be worth asking PMC direct.  

Out of interest I checked their FAQ page and the only related question was about speaker spikes and decoupling.  The answer is somewhat vague and "will have limited effect on the sound quality" dependent upon how much you have spent on your system!!!!

How important are speaker spikes and decoupling?

French Rooster posted:

2  X 600 pounds aerate concrete under the stands....quite effective for my atc scm7 but my wife doesn’t want anymore to come in the living room, i don’t know why....

Good heavens, using pounds?

Ç'est 272kg n'est pas?

Bob the Builder posted:

ChrisSU posted:

French Rooster posted:

5 stillpoints ultra 6 between each speaker and stand and 5 other under the stand.  so ten ultra 6 per speaker, quite a bargain.... nearly the price of blue tack

You must have one hell of a pair of speakers if you need £16000 worth of Blutac to support them 

So 22 stillpoints ultra cost £16000?

£800 each.  Plus another £50 if you want the “Ultra Base”.

Johnell posted:

It might be worth asking PMC direct.  

Out of interest I checked their FAQ page and the only related question was about speaker spikes and decoupling.  The answer is somewhat vague and "will have limited effect on the sound quality" dependent upon how much you have spent on your system!!!!

How important are speaker spikes and decoupling?

In an ideal world the speaker would be decoupled from the room using a slab of dense material such as concrete or marble, which is in turn decoupled from the slab using spikes or bluetack. However, in the real world this is hard to achieve, and will have limited effect on the sound quality unless a considerable amount of money has been spent on the system and the room acoustics are good.

  

Hi Johnell,

I did check the PMC stand instructions which says; "Use 4 pea-sized balls of Blue Tack to mount the speaker to the top plate."

As with all things its interesting to hear of others experience on these matters.

I've just gone the whole hog. I'm using Quadraspire stands with sharp spikes on to a tiled floor and "nubbin" screws up into the speakers. 

I've replaced all these with small balls of Bluetac and there has been an immediate, and very obvious improvement.

It's a great tip!

ROOG posted:  

Hi Johnell,

I did check the PMC stand instructions which says; "Use 4 pea-sized balls of Blue Tack to mount the speaker to the top plate."

As with all things its interesting to hear of others experience on these matters.

This seems to be the recommendation of most manufacturers, which begs the question what would they be recommending if blu tack hadn't been invented? 

Polyborosiloxane perhaps?

There are some 3M little black "bumpon" feet that used to be recommended by Mana Acoustics.

Bob the Builder posted:

ChrisSU posted:

French Rooster posted:

5 stillpoints ultra 6 between each speaker and stand and 5 other under the stand.  so ten ultra 6 per speaker, quite a bargain.... nearly the price of blue tack

You must have one hell of a pair of speakers if you need £16000 worth of Blutac to support them 

So 22 stillpoints ultra cost £16000?

one stillpoint ultra 6 costs around 900 us dollars.   Under big magicos or wilson, it must be effective....

Huge posted:

French Rooster posted:

2  X 600 pounds aerate concrete under the stands....quite effective for my atc scm7 but my wife doesn’t want anymore to come in the living room, i don’t know why....

Good heavens, using pounds?

Ç'est 272kg n'est pas?

oui c’est ça!    little joke, je plaisantais bien sûr...  300 kg i think?

No quarter posted:

I also use blue tak between my Dynaudio stands and special 40s,always been happy with the result.I originally got some from my dealer too,but recently picked up some more at Canadian tire.The reason I got more is,I actually have just added some on top of my special 40s,To go between the speakers and some spare granite slabs I had sitting around.Another Dynaudio owner I know uses granite on top of his speakers to add weight to them,thought I would give it a try.Still trying to decide if I hear anything improved,but I think the bass seems to be fuller.I have also just ordered two sets of Isoacoustis GAIA 111s to go under my Dynaudio XD 600s,they go in place of the spikes,after reading great reviews about them.

iso acoustics gaia seem to be a very fine product, and not so expensive as stillpoints.....