iOS App - Display of bitrate

Posted by: ianc69 on 16 January 2018

Having moved house, I am retrieving from storage and setting up my UQ1 and Synology NAS. Previously I recall being able to see the bitrate for files and thus distinguish between 16 and 24 bit and FLAC and WAV files. This seems to be missing from the Naim iOS app on my iPad. Has this been removed from the latest version?

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by schuhmab

Hi [@mention:73793444580011131], check if the bitrate still gets displayed for the first track. If that's the case then it should be a known issue of recent iOS app versions. Noticed that when I got my Atom last year, not sure if the app did that with my UnitiLite before.

If you're experiencing the same problem, then bitrate only gets displayed for the first track played or if the format changes. Assume you start playing two FLACs and a WAV. iOS app shows bitrate on tracks #1 and #3 - #1 because it's the first track and #3 because format changed from FLAC to WAV.

You can force the app to show the bitrate again by stopping the current track, skip back (to beginning of track) and press play again. Not sure though this trick still works ;-)

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by ianc69

Hi [@mention:52252470659374912]. Thanks for your reply. However, I'm still not seeing the bitrate, even for the first track. I've looked on both the album and the playlist view; from memory, I believe the bitrate was shown on the playlist view when I last used the app.

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by Nick Lees

This is where the bitrate is shown now:

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Posted on: 16 January 2018 by ianc69

Thanks [@mention:1566878603949164]. That looks like the playlist view. Unfortunately it doesn't appear on my screen.

Screenshot

A possible factor is that the firmware on the UQ is not the latest - it's at 4.1. The last time I attempted to update it via my iMac it bricked the UQ and required a return to Naim for repair!

 

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by Eloise
ianc69 posted:

Thanks [@mention:1566878603949164]. That looks like the playlist view. Unfortunately it doesn't appear on my screen.

I don't think it shows in "list" view, you need the sideways scrolling view.  Lick the icon in top left corner.

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by Nick Lees
Eloise posted:
ianc69 posted:

Thanks [@mention:1566878603949164]. That looks like the playlist view. Unfortunately it doesn't appear on my screen.

I don't think it shows in "list" view, you need the sideways scrolling view.  Lick the icon in top left corner.

I tried licking it, but all I got was a smeared screen

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by ianc69

Well done [@mention:1566878603969011], that's fixed it . Many thanks.

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by Mike-B

My NDX + Synology + iPad has never shown bitrate.  I see codec, sample rate & the sample x bit x channel math  (96x24x2=4608kb/s)    

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by jsaudio

Didn't know that the kb/s number was sample rate X bit X channels. Thanks

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by Eloise
Mike-B posted:

I see codec, sample rate & the sample x bit x channel math  (96x24x2=4608kb/s)    

Which surely IS the bitrate?

I did notice if you use FLAC (which is variable bitrate) it only shows CODEC and sample rate.

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by Nick Lees

It’s a bugbear of mine that the app shows bitrate, not bit depth. It’s needlessly idiosyncratic. 

And the random missing sample rate was noted in beta testing, but I assume it wasn’t deemed  ital to getting Uniti fixes out, which was fair enough.

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by Mike-B
Eloise posted:

Which surely IS the bitrate?

Errrr ???  you might be right,  however I've always understood the calc of sample rate X bit depth X channel number to be the data transfer rate.

My answer was based on the OP question "....able to see the bitrate for files and thus distinguish between 16 and 24 bit"   I think I answered what was intended in the question even tho' the bit 'rate' phrase was incorrect & should have been bit 'depth'

Posted on: 16 January 2018 by Eloise
Nick Lees posted:

It’s a bugbear of mine that the app shows bitrate, not bit depth. It’s needlessly idiosyncratic. 

I will agree with you there... though with lossy formats the bit rate would be important.