show us your dressing up! ????

Drewy posted:

You mean Armaflex? Horrible floppy ugly black stuff. Got a couple of lengths of it in my garage. It’s staying there. 

No Aeroflex

Mike-B posted:

MDS posted:

You're too modest, Mike 

I've got a lot on at the mo, 

An image of Steve Bannon surfaces like a cork from custard.

(Explanation - shirts)

Amazingly, I’ve managed to arrange the wires so that none of them touch any of the others, the floor or the rack. The pesky 300 burndies won’t stay off the wall without the insulation; the alternative was to move the rack forward, but that would be too intrusive. Getting the wires sorted out has made a big improvement to the sound, and I had to get an extra shelf to keep the S-XPS burndy off the floor. A few hours work  has been very worthwhile.

Yes, that looks pretty neat, HH. Looking at your pic I initially thought your pipe insulation solution were ferrite chokes.  

M 

feeling_zen posted:

Drewy posted:

You mean Armaflex? Horrible floppy ugly black stuff. Got a couple of lengths of it in my garage. It’s staying there. 

No Aeroflex

I see now, googled it. Looks just like Armaflex. 

Whatever it’s staying in the garage

I split my single rack into two yesterday, in the hope of making a better job of addressing cable arrangements and improving sound quality

There is still quite a lot going on back here but i managed to ensure there is no floor or wall contact with the burndys and although it looks a bit of a rats nest none of the cables are actually touching each other

I suspect there is much more I can do to make this neater and improve things further but having more space away from the wall is difficult and some of the cables really are quite unwieldy, any tips are more than welcome.....

ct posted:

I split my single rack into two yesterday, in the hope of making a better job of addressing cable arrangements and improving sound quality

There is still quite a lot going on back here but i managed to ensure there is no floor or wall contact with the burndys and although it looks a bit of a rats nest none of the cables are actually touching each other

I suspect there is much more I can do to make this neater and improve things further but having more space away from the wall is difficult and some of the cables really are quite unwieldy, any tips are more than welcome.....

The dressing is good enough and it doesn't matter if some cables touch the wall/floor. Most of the so called positives when dressed up well, is all in da mind. 

Robiwan posted:

ct posted:

I split my single rack into two yesterday, in the hope of making a better job of addressing cable arrangements and improving sound quality

There is still quite a lot going on back here but i managed to ensure there is no floor or wall contact with the burndys and although it looks a bit of a rats nest none of the cables are actually touching each other

I suspect there is much more I can do to make this neater and improve things further but having more space away from the wall is difficult and some of the cables really are quite unwieldy, any tips are more than welcome.....

The dressing is good enough and it doesn't matter if some cables touch the wall/floor. Most of the so called positives when dressed up well, is all in da mind. 

That is not the case, micro vibrations getting into the signal lines and being amplified by the amplifier is not in the mind and effects the noise floor of your system.

In my opinion!

Popeye posted:

Robiwan posted:

ct posted:

I split my single rack into two yesterday, in the hope of making a better job of addressing cable arrangements and improving sound quality

There is still quite a lot going on back here but i managed to ensure there is no floor or wall contact with the burndys and although it looks a bit of a rats nest none of the cables are actually touching each other

I suspect there is much more I can do to make this neater and improve things further but having more space away from the wall is difficult and some of the cables really are quite unwieldy, any tips are more than welcome.....

The dressing is good enough and it doesn't matter if some cables touch the wall/floor. Most of the so called positives when dressed up well, is all in da mind. 

That is not the case, micro vibrations getting into the signal lines and being amplified by the amplifier is not in the mind and effects the noise floor of your system.

In my opinion!

yeah you said it right, micro vibrations!!!! Nothing to worry about.

Hungryhalibut posted:

Amazingly, I’ve managed to arrange the wires so that none of them touch any of the others, the floor or the rack. The pesky 300 burndies won’t stay off the wall without the insulation; the alternative was to move the rack forward, but that would be too intrusive. Getting the wires sorted out has made a big improvement to the sound, and I had to get an extra shelf to keep the S-XPS burndy off the floor. A few hours work  has been very worthwhile.

Very tidy Nigel.  It seems that the SL interconnects, whilst more robust than hi-line, still succumb to gravity pressures due to their slightly wobbly construction and length exaggerating the downward dead weight of the cables.  Perhaps SL plug supports would help their longevity/ stability..... the downside of having two strong expressos back to back first thing on a Saturday!

Peter

Whilst another shelf isn't possible I have just bought some longer spacers which will give me another 100mm for the Burndies to hang free.  Also a 5m pair of used Nac a5 has just arrived and so some cable dressing for me today and with Arsenal facing Everton later and with dry (from alcohol) (why do women love to give stuff up?) January stretching into February it could well be a long day.

Robiwan posted:

Popeye posted:

Robiwan posted:

ct posted:

I split my single rack into two yesterday, in the hope of making a better job of addressing cable arrangements and improving sound quality

There is still quite a lot going on back here but i managed to ensure there is no floor or wall contact with the burndys and although it looks a bit of a rats nest none of the cables are actually touching each other

I suspect there is much more I can do to make this neater and improve things further but having more space away from the wall is difficult and some of the cables really are quite unwieldy, any tips are more than welcome.....

The dressing is good enough and it doesn't matter if some cables touch the wall/floor. Most of the so called positives when dressed up well, is all in da mind. 

That is not the case, micro vibrations getting into the signal lines and being amplified by the amplifier is not in the mind and effects the noise floor of your system.

In my opinion!

yeah you said it right, micro vibrations!!!! Nothing to worry about.

the original reason for the rethink on racking was a faint hum from the power supplies (previously grouped at the bottom of the rack) whenever i went near the burndys which had been touching each other as the floor and wall

I'm pleased to report that there is now a total absence of the hum and, whether or not the SQ is improved too, my listening enjoyment is much improved )

CT - it’s interesting that you use your Evo stands back to front. 

northpole posted:

Very tidy Nigel.  It seems that the SL interconnects, whilst more robust than hi-line, still succumb to gravity pressures due to their slightly wobbly construction and length exaggerating the downward dead weight of the cables.  Perhaps SL plug supports would help their longevity/ stability..... the downside of having two strong expressos back to back first thing on a Saturday!

Peter

The plugs are much more wobbly than the hiline, and far better made. I’m not sure what you mean by plug supports, but I’d have thought that any kind of support would negate the point of the wobbly construction. It’s a bit tricky to get both hanging entirely free, but I’ve managed it, and even with my cloth ears I can hear the difference. 

Hungryhalibut posted:

CT - it’s interesting that you use your Evo stands back to front. 

yes, I always found the concave fronts a little off-putting visually but am really happy with the racks, until i can justify the expense of Fraim.......

Hungryhalibut posted:

northpole posted:

Very tidy Nigel.  It seems that the SL interconnects, whilst more robust than hi-line, still succumb to gravity pressures due to their slightly wobbly construction and length exaggerating the downward dead weight of the cables.  Perhaps SL plug supports would help their longevity/ stability..... the downside of having two strong expressos back to back first thing on a Saturday!

Peter

The plugs are much more wobbly than the hiline, and far better made. I’m not sure what you mean by plug supports, but I’d have thought that any kind of support would negate the point of the wobbly construction. It’s a bit tricky to get both hanging entirely free, but I’ve managed it, and even with my cloth ears I can hear the difference. 

Yep - nonsense coffee fueled idea!  I had problems with two hi-lines where it seemed that the dead weight of the cables over time fatigued the ring connections in the wobbly plugs.  I suspect there is a lot more strength in the SL construction to resist gravity - it still looks in your photo that there is a little strain on the plugs.  Hopefully of no significance.

Peter

Peter, once you’ve held an SL lead and had a look at how they are made, you will see that there is no strain issue. They are amazing things. An amazing price too of course. 

ct posted:

Hungryhalibut posted:

CT - it’s interesting that you use your Evo stands back to front. 

yes, I always found the concave fronts a little off-putting visually but am really happy with the racks, until i can justify the expense of Fraim.......

It’s odd - it’s the concave front, and the way it mirrors the sides, that I really like. You’d do well to try the SVT as well; it’s much cheaper than Fraim and really good sonically. It doesn’t look as spindly as the Evo either. 

Not the easiest of things to photograph, black cables, boxes and racks against dark blue walls....

With the exception of one of the 250 leads touching a speaker cable and a burndy "bubble wrapped" off the floor nothing else is touching, not even the cat!

Regards,

Willy.

Heres my cable dressing.  So many wires and only 3 boxes!

Probably needs more attention!

I have some of the 500 burndies on the floor - thinking of using some of the large "air bubble" packaging material to lift them.  

555 rear

Brawn stack rear

500 head rear & mains distributor

A garden view

Regards

Roberto

Mike-B posted:

............   I might be tempted the pull out the rack for a spring (late winter) clean.  Not least because, spurred on by this thread,  I don't have an up to date photo of my set up's rear end & underwear dressing,  all I have is CDX2 & that was moved out almost 4 years ago.  

OK here's my just dusted down rear end.   The Supernait's connected to NDX & NAT-05 with made to measure Mogami W2549 & Neutrik-REAN DIN's,  the SN is also feeding my 2nd system Nait-2 from its buffered Tape Out.    The NDX has an input from TV via optical.    In the lower section of rack houses cuddly toy PSU's for SN & NDX,  the MK socket power strip with DC offset filter & one channel of folded speaker cable is hidden in a designed in section between rack & floor.  

Popeye's original post asked:  ...... and opinions on what you feel has enhanced your listening experience.      The Mogami IC's improved the SQ detail,  but that was probably just the cable rather that the minimal length.  I have made a point of separating signal, speaker & power as much as possible & apart from that I don't believe any of the tidy obsession does much for SQ.  

Mike-B posted:

Mike-B posted:

............   I might be tempted the pull out the rack for a spring (late winter) clean.  Not least because, spurred on by this thread,  I don't have an up to date photo of my set up's rear end & underwear dressing,  all I have is CDX2 & that was moved out almost 4 years ago.  

OK here's my just dusted down rear end.   The Supernait's connected to NDX & NAT-05 with made to measure Mogami W2549 & Neutrik-REAN DIN's,  the SN is also feeding my 2nd system Nait-2 from its buffered Tape Out.    The NDX has an input from TV via optical.    In the lower section of rack houses cuddly toy PSU's for SN & NDX,  the MK socket power strip with DC offset filter & one channel of folded speaker cable is hidden in a designed in section between rack & floor.  

Popeye's original post asked:  ...... and opinions on what you feel has enhanced your listening experience.      The Mogami IC's improved the SQ detail,  but that was probably just the cable rather that the minimal length.  I have made a point of separating signal, speaker & power as much as possible & apart from that I don't believe any of the tidy obsession does much for SQ.  

That looks very nice and tidy Mike!

Evening all

here is my showing. Important cables are off the floor and wall, HiLine runs free.