ND555

Posted by: Rattlesnaic on 05 February 2018

So the Classic look continues

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by Bob the Builder
yeti42 posted:

It might be better with two but it will require one to function, they’d be over limiting its appeal else.

Over limiting it's appeal @ £26,000! Although if they keep it to just a nice round £20,000 and they'll be queuing round the block I suppose.  Perhaps the Israeli guy can knock up a dual psu and keep it down to about £15,500.

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by elkman70

If it needs 2 555psus, count me out.

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by French Rooster
yeti42 posted:

It might be better with two but it will require one to function, they’d be over limiting its appeal else.

the rumor says 2....

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by Chag...

It is a 500 Series. It had to hit the 25k mark. Only way to get there was to require two 555PS.

Chag -

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by musicfan51
Chag... posted:

It is a 500 Series. It had to hit the 25k mark. Only way to get there was to require two 555PS.

Chag -

ND555 and two power supplies will likely be out of my budget! I will have to be happy with the NDS/555DR combo I have now !  Maybe the replacement to the NDS will be in my budget ! 

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by Innocent Bystander
Chag... posted:

It is a 500 Series. It had to hit the 25k mark. Only way to get there was to require two 555PS.

Chag -

Strange basis for assumption!

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by Innocent Bystander
French Rooster posted:
yeti42 posted:

It might be better with two but it will require one to function, they’d be over limiting its appeal else.

the rumor says 2....

Rumours are rumours. What is basis? All will be known soon!

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by French Rooster
Innocent Bystander posted:
French Rooster posted:
yeti42 posted:

It might be better with two but it will require one to function, they’d be over limiting its appeal else.

the rumor says 2....

Rumours are rumours. What is basis? All will be known soon!

no basis, just rumors....but the hypothesis of yeti42 that it requires only one ps has no basis too....

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by musicfan51
French Rooster posted:
Innocent Bystander posted:
French Rooster posted:
yeti42 posted:

It might be better with two but it will require one to function, they’d be over limiting its appeal else.

the rumor says 2....

Rumours are rumours. What is basis? All will be known soon!

no basis, just rumors....but the hypothesis of yeti42 that it requires only one ps has no basis too....

Having ND555 with two power supplies separates from the NDS and NDS replacement ! Something you would use with 500 series amp and Preamp or Statement Preamp and amp ! 

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by Innocent Bystander

In terms of speculation, Yeti’s guess makes the most sense: It might be better with two but it will require one to function, they’d be over limiting its appeal else.

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by French Rooster
musicfan51 posted:
French Rooster posted:
Innocent Bystander posted:
French Rooster posted:
yeti42 posted:

It might be better with two but it will require one to function, they’d be over limiting its appeal else.

the rumor says 2....

Rumours are rumours. What is basis? All will be known soon!

no basis, just rumors....but the hypothesis of yeti42 that it requires only one ps has no basis too....

Having ND555 with two power supplies separates from the NDS and NDS replacement ! Something you would use with 500 series amp and Preamp or Statement Preamp and amp ! 

yes, i agree, because the nd555 is a 500 series streamer and don’t replace the nds.  But we don’t know yet if it effectively needs 2 ps....

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by French Rooster
Innocent Bystander posted:

In terms of speculation, Yeti’s guess makes the most sense: It might be better with two but it will require one to function, they’d be over limiting its appeal else.

perhaps it requires two to function,  not one....Anyway all this is only speculation as you said .

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by Darke Bear

If it uses the 555PS then it will only need one to work, as the two outputs are different.

It will also be able to use two 555PS like the NDS too - again, if the ND555 can be powered by a 555PS, which seems a reasonable bet.

DB.

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by French Rooster

how do you know that the 2 outputs are different ?   there’s no photo of the back of the nd555....

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by musicfan51

Everything we are saying here is speculation! So we don’t actually know ! 

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by Innocent Bystander

I don’t understand the speculation - there’s a separate wishing thread, meanwhile another thread started out picking up something tantalising published on another website, suggested as a Statement level product, then the ND555 was confirmed as a fact by Naim (as a 500 series product), which prompted this thread - with unveiling very soon in Bristol. Naim staff must be killing themselves laughing when they the speculation here.

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by musicfan51
Alba1320 posted:

So, we've gone from some people wanting (expecting?) a single box, with internal supply, to some people expecting (wanting? ) three boxes, with the requirement for two external supplies?!

I don’t want ND555 to require two power supplies, but I would not be surprised if that is what happens ! I would prefer it only required one ! 

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by French Rooster
musicfan51 posted:
Alba1320 posted:

So, we've gone from some people wanting (expecting?) a single box, with internal supply, to some people expecting (wanting? ) three boxes, with the requirement for two external supplies?!

I don’t want ND555 to require two power supplies, but I would not be surprised if that is what happens ! I would prefer it only required one ! 

perhaps a half one.....

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by analogmusic

I doubt very much there is a new PSU.

 

It would alienate too many customers.

 

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by MDS
Alba1320 posted:

Given that ND555 is the new 500 series source, and therefore, the replacement for the CD555, and as such, it would seem logical (to me, a least) that it uses the 555PS, just as the CD555 does; it doesn't mean that it definitely will (I've no idea), but it seems rather more likely than some of the speculation, which seems to have little/no basis at all.

If there was a requirement for two supplies, that, presumably, would mean one being analogue only, the other digital only, as it would seem strange to force people to make only partial use of two 555PSs, rather than the current situation where it is merely an option, and two new PSUs, again, doesn't seem very likely, to me. But, just more speculation...

 

That sounds logical to me to. Only one 555PSDR needed (with twin burndy) but two 555PSDR possible, which some might prefer. 

Posted on: 15 February 2018 by yeti42

See what I mean? I can’t accomodate two 555ps either.

Naim like to draw you in gently, then tempt you with a power supply upgrade which can lead to another upgrade. The 555 needs its supply but you already have one from your CDX2/CDS3/NDX/NDS so all you need to find is the price of the head unit. That’s £6k less that doing it in one lump, or £12k if you have to have two of the blighters

Posted on: 15 February 2018 by French Rooster
analogmusic posted:

I doubt very much there is a new PSU.

 

It would alienate too many customers.

 

the cd555 was the case.....the new psu came with the cd player.

Posted on: 15 February 2018 by analogmusic

well - I am quite curious to hear the ND555 and I would bet very good money it will work just fine with PS555

 

Posted on: 15 February 2018 by MangoMonkey

This is hilarious. Very soon, the XPS-DR will be the recommended PSU for the NDS, and the 555 the recommended PSU for the ND555. Just like in CDS times. :-)

Posted on: 15 February 2018 by DaveBk

Perhaps someone can take a sneaky photo of the back when it’s on display at Bristol? It would seem sensible to continue to support the 555 PS:

1 - It’s only recently been upgraded to DR level, which was trickle down technology from the Statement. 

2 - The reuse of the 555 model number implies it would be compatible.

3 - It would avoid the manufacturing overheads of supporting another PS model.

We will just have to wait... and save money!