ND555

Alba1320 posted:

Richieroo posted:

I have been told by a dealer that the 2 burndy feeds are totally separate on the ND555 and the unit therefore needs 2 feeds to operate - ie with NDS it will work with an a single XPS ....... the ND555 wont.

SNIP

Isn't that to be expected? It's just like the CD555, which the ND555 replaces - mandatory use of (presumably, in the case of ND555) 555PS?

Although, you have just dismayed those who wanted (expected ? ) an internal PSU...

I really hope not, that is a kludgy albatross to require a 3 box solution for a standalone streamer. If that's the case I would much rather have the Linn KDS

DUPREE posted:

Alba1320 posted:

Richieroo posted:

I have been told by a dealer that the 2 burndy feeds are totally separate on the ND555 and the unit therefore needs 2 feeds to operate - ie with NDS it will work with an a single XPS ....... the ND555 wont.

SNIP

Isn't that to be expected? It's just like the CD555, which the ND555 replaces - mandatory use of (presumably, in the case of ND555) 555PS?

Although, you have just dismayed those who wanted (expected ? ) an internal PSU...

I really hope not, that is a kludgy albatross to require a 3 box solution for a standalone streamer. If that's the case I would much rather have the Linn KDS

+1

2 box which I think means it isn’t stand alone, in fact it’s slightly better than a CD555 as it doesn’t demand a top shelf. I’ve already got a 6 box amplifier, what’s a couple more?

yeti42 posted:

2 box which I think means it isn’t stand alone, in fact it’s slightly better than a CD555 as it doesn’t demand a top shelf. I’ve already got a 6 box amplifier, what’s a couple more?

That's the spirit 

DaveBk posted:

Perhaps someone can take a sneaky photo of the back when it’s on display at Bristol? It would seem sensible to continue to support the 555 PS:

1 - It’s only recently been upgraded to DR level, which was trickle down technology from the Statement. 

2 - The reuse of the 555 model number implies it would be compatible.

3 - It would avoid the manufacturing overheads of supporting another PS model.

We will just have to wait... and save money!

 

 

it seems to be the most logic that nd555 is powered by 555ps. I believe that we all hope so.

One external power supply box is enough blight... 2 is absolutely ridiculous. 

Klout10 posted:

DUPREE posted:

Alba1320 posted:

Richieroo posted:

I have been told by a dealer that the 2 burndy feeds are totally separate on the ND555 and the unit therefore needs 2 feeds to operate - ie with NDS it will work with an a single XPS ....... the ND555 wont.

SNIP

Isn't that to be expected? It's just like the CD555, which the ND555 replaces - mandatory use of (presumably, in the case of ND555) 555PS?

Although, you have just dismayed those who wanted (expected ? ) an internal PSU...

I really hope not, that is a kludgy albatross to require a 3 box solution for a standalone streamer. If that's the case I would much rather have the Linn KDS

+1

You know what would be nice , a one box double power supply ! The three box streamer or three box CD player like the CD555 is a bit much ! 

You never have to add the second identical power supply, even on a 282, though I never understood the psc having to be separate from the hicap and supercap on that one. At least it’s small and comes with it.

If the cost is not barrier enough, I have to agree that the number of boxes might be the final barrier.   If it was 3 boxes, then it really becomes hard to also run a CD555, which would really be a big shame, given the investment many might have in the humble CD.  (Yes, I know they could all be transferred to FLAC or similar, but would be a shame).

Alba1320 posted:

musicfan51 posted:

Klout10 posted:

DUPREE posted:

I really hope not, that is a kludgy albatross to require a 3 box solution for a standalone streamer. If that's the case I would much rather have the Linn KDS

+1

You know what would be nice , a one box double power supply ! The three box streamer or three box CD player like the CD555 is a bit much ! 

CD555 is a two box CD player, not three - CD555 'head unit' and the CD555PS power supply, which has separate feeds for analogue and digital, via two Burndy cables.

A second PSU can be used, but it’s optional - some people like the performance with two, some prefer it with one.

 

I am aware of everything you are saying ! Just a fantasy to get the sound of two power supplies with one box!  That is all! 

Rumour has it there will be three power supplies required. One for the dedicated tablet which hosts the new app. They will all only work on individual mains looms done in SuperLumina mains cable (also to be announced rumour has it) into dedicated SuperLumina mains power boards. This all has to installed by a certified Naim installer from England. (Not included in the price). The new components also require suspension in the new SuperFraim. So rumour has it.  

Now I understand why Naim wanted it all kept quiet until they were ready.
They are either laughing or crying at all this and probably both at the same time.

But all publicity is good.

DB.

Darke Bear posted:

Now I understand why Naim wanted it all kept quiet until they were ready.
They are either laughing or crying at all this and probably both at the same time.

But all publicity is good.

DB.

I’m laughing ????  funny stuff 

Well thats me out if it's only going to have the one PS555. Naim what were you thinking?!!

It needs three supplies: one for the pure Analogue, one for the pure Digital and one for the internal D to A transition circuits.

Then all will be good and everyone happy.

...and it needs to be powered off one supply to get people hooked and begin to crave the upgrade to two then three 555PS - then the special 555NDPS supply.

DB.

Gavin L posted:

If the cost is not barrier enough, I have to agree that the number of boxes might be the final barrier.   If it was 3 boxes, then it really becomes hard to also run a CD555, which would really be a big shame, given the investment many might have in the humble CD.  (Yes, I know they could all be transferred to FLAC or similar, but would be a shame).

If it is really that phenomenal I could get past the cost barrier, but not the box barrier. There is zero chance I would buy a 3 box streamer, absolutely zero. It isn't like their other streamers are not quite good and that the Linn KDS isn't one of the best streamers out and only requires one box. I hope they rethink their strategy, even for those that can afford the best, the aesthetics and practicality are a absolutely huge consideration. It has to be able to fit comfortably in your listening room or it won't fly.

Doesn’t it need another power supply for the display and control circuits that make it all work, not to mention to ensure the indicator lamp glows at precisely the correct brightness and shade of green (assuming it is green)? (I’m assuming that just the one additional PS will suffice...

Geez.....I wish I had never asked!

I will buy one for sure, unheard! To listen before buying is cheating...

NDS, liked you a lot but time to move on to a new home! I’m sure that won’t be that hard to find  

//Jonas

SHARC DACs

Floaty boards

One or two PS555DR

SHARC DACs

Floaty boards

One or two PS555DR

 If I could work out how to post pictures on a mobile I'd do that too

Check the Naim web.....nd555; ndx2 and ND5XS2 all being launched tbd.....their most powerful streamers to date in 500 series finish, classic finish and then xs series finish! Something for everyone. Need a few of you at the Bristol show to sit on Phil until he spills more beans....will need a posse though.

sunbeamgls posted:

SHARC DACs

Do you mean SHARC DACs?  Afaik SHARC are DSP (processors) not DACs.

Gazza posted:

Check the Naim web.....nd555; ndx2 and ND5XS2 all being launched tbd.....their most powerful streamers to date in 500 series finish, classic finish and then xs series finish! Something for everyone.

Interesting: the ND555 is stated as having LDVS LVDS* audio output... suggesting perhaps a new DAC with LDVS LVDS input is possibly in the pipeline too.

*LVDS is (at least with other manufacturers) a form of i2s for connecting a streamer / transport to a DAC.

Not clear what LDVS does? What is so significant, must be new DACs as the old ones are no longer made......but does LDVS give a Chord Dave..like volume control?