Witch hat din-xlr cables for nap500

Posted by: MangoMonkey on 06 February 2018

I need to get new din/xlr cables for the nap500. 

Don'twant to do superlumina yet (and not doing anything else fancy/expensive - will do superlumina eceneventu).

Are the witch hat ones comparable in quality to standard naim ones? Anyone with direct experience?

Posted on: 12 February 2018 by cat345
t@rmac posted:

Bought and soldered  MOGAMI Neglex QUAD W2534..............4 conductors  only ,   no  power required in my system 

Nac 272 to Nap 200    ......excellent result 

Glad the W2534 work out well for you!  I have just ordered some W2549 and will try that between HCDR and Nap250.

Posted on: 12 February 2018 by Mike-B

I experimented a few years ago with Mogami W2534 & W2549 between CDX2 (at that time) & Supernait.  I eventually settled on W2549; I felt that it had a slight edge with SQ & a 2 core on 2 channels with screen carrying -ve made more sense.  The Naim system has a common ground/-ve & I could not see any point in connecting the 2 wires on the #2 pin in 'quad' & then decide what to do with the screen.        I made them to the exact length to minimize the already very low capacitance.

Posted on: 12 February 2018 by Huge

I also tested Mogami 2549 and 2534 but connecting an ND5 XS to a Nait XS.

Whereas mike thought there to be slight edge in favour of the 2549, I on the other hand found there to be a slight advantage to the 2534 when wired as pseudo balanced.  That is, I used 2 cores for the signal (one for each channel) and two cores for the signal return; I connected the screen only at the source end (lowest impedance to mains protective ground at this point).

I suspect the very small differences may well be system dependant!


When testing cables to connect the 272 to the 300, I didn't bother with the 2534, but I did test the 2549 and, in most ways, found it superior to the standard Naim cable (the only aspect where I found the standard Naim cable preferable was that of bass integration with the midrange).

Posted on: 12 February 2018 by cat345
Mike-B posted:

I experimented a few years ago with Mogami W2534 & W2549 between CDX2 (at that time) & Supernait.  I eventually settled on W2549; I felt that it had a slight edge with SQ & a 2 core on 2 channels with screen carrying -ve made more sense.  The Naim system has a common ground/-ve & I could not see any point in connecting the 2 wires on the #2 pin in 'quad' & then decide what to do with the screen.        I made them to the exact length to minimize the already very low capacitance.

Mike, would the Mogami W2534 be the one to use for a RCA/DIN 5 cable? 

Posted on: 12 February 2018 by Huge

You could try Mogami 3106,  I've had success with that

If you strongly prefer to use unbalanced rather than use a pseudo-balanced cable construction, then you might try 2528, but I don't think the materials or construction are quite as good as 3106.

Posted on: 12 February 2018 by Mike-B
cat345 posted:

Mike, would the Mogami W2534 be the one to use for a RCA/DIN 5 cable? 

Yes,  as it 'appens I made up a 6m DIN-RCA 2534 a few months ago for a friends AV setup, with some red & white braided sleeving & shrink wrap at the RCA "Y" end & it looked very professional. 

Plus 3106 as suggested by Huge would be good.   

 

Posted on: 12 February 2018 by cat345

Thank you Huge, Mike, if the 2549 work good in my system I might try both the 2534 and the 3106 for the sources.

Posted on: 13 February 2018 by kevin J Carden
MangoMonkey posted:

The seller found the cables and is mailing them to me now.

Good to hear MM. if you are still curious about The WitchHat cables the beauty is that the makers are happy for you to order and if not happy with them, return them. I think it’s 28 days period, but check their website. I tried them looking for a sound improvement over the stock cables, but to my ears found them to just give a different presentation rather than a better one. However, many others on the forum have preferred the WitchHat so, as ever, it will be down to system/listener preferences. The cables are beautifully made. 

Posted on: 13 February 2018 by Mort2k

More for future info for people searching...

I have just finished testing a range of Cables (not speaker yet) from WH and found they all increased detail and separation in the sound strane - positive results. Only the DIN>XLR to my 250's are staying in place though. The other options added more 'HiFi' but removed the emotional connection to the music, in my system, in my room etc etc.

Great support from the company and honour the returns policy so cannot speak more highly of them. Will give the speaker cable a go at some point im sure.

 

Rob 

Posted on: 14 February 2018 by kevin J Carden

Fair comment Mort. I should clarify that I was referring above specifically and only to the DIN-XLR mono pair that the OP was asking about. I haven’t tried any other WH products.