I hope its worth it?

Posted by: wenger2015 on 15 February 2018

After much deliberation I have decided to order two Full Naim Fraims, base plus three shelves in Black.

Having spent sometime researching Racks and looking at other options, I have convinced myself that despite the considerable cost that it will be money well spent.......

I am very much hoping that I won’t be disappointed???????

Posted on: 23 March 2018 by wenger2015
davidf posted:

Fraim color? Uprights color?

wouldnt bother with plastic thingys- very hard to place perfectly and not so easy to remove and they leave some sticky material on the glass that is a pia to remove. 

U will love Fraim- great looking and nice upgrade to sound

I am also a Focal fan.... 1038be’s

david

Fraim is Black shelves, Black uprights, 

I’m certainly looking forward to the build.

ps I used to have the 1028be’s before trading up to the Sopra’s 

Posted on: 23 March 2018 by Clive B

The plastic retaining rings can most easily be applied by turning the glass over and using the position of the balls to  identify the ideal position. This is better than trying to use the paper template which is not precise enough. 

BTW black on black is top choice IMHO!

Posted on: 23 March 2018 by Richard Dane

Take your time and have fun doing the build Wenger, oh and don't forget this:

How to build Naim Fraim

Which reminds me, the next time I rebuild my Fraim stacks I should take a few pictures to add to the guide.

Posted on: 23 March 2018 by wenger2015
Clive B posted:

The plastic retaining rings can most easily be applied by turning the glass over and using the position of the balls to  identify the ideal position. This is better than trying to use the paper template which is not precise enough. 

BTW black on black is top choice IMHO!

Thanks for the tip, all advice very much appreciated 

Posted on: 23 March 2018 by wenger2015
Richard Dane posted:

Take your time and have fun doing the build Wenger, oh and don't forget this:

How to build Naim Fraim

Which reminds me, the next time I rebuild my Fraim stacks I should take a few pictures to add to the guide.

Thanks Richard,

Yes, I have read through the How to build Fraim a few times, Pictures would certainly be a good addition to your excellent write up.

Unfortunately with work commitments and being away the build is going to have to wait until next weekend....

Posted on: 23 March 2018 by Loki

Is it worth it? Absolutely: everything shifts upwards, qualitatively. Silly question  But ypu have reminded me that The Asgaardian dust has need of removal from mine own stack.

Posted on: 23 March 2018 by boom

Hi Wenger, I was just looking at the photo on your profile, is your current rack Apollo? That is what I currently have and am pondering on racks, so will be great to hear your findings.....when your bleeding work commitments get out of they way! Congratulations.

Posted on: 23 March 2018 by Filipe
wenger2015 posted:
S3 posted:

I guess if there is a risk of children touching any of the equipment then best to use them even if only for piece of mind. 

Yes, I do have two grandchildren to consider, so probably best to be safe

And if you are like me your put the protection over the speaker cones! Look forward to hearing more (pun intended)!

Phil

Posted on: 23 March 2018 by wenger2015
boom posted:

Hi Wenger, I was just looking at the photo on your profile, is your current rack Apollo? That is what I currently have and am pondering on racks, so will be great to hear your findings.....when your bleeding work commitments get out of they way! Congratulations.

Yes the current rack is Apollo, I have tweaked it with some wood panels and isolation pods.

It was purchased a number of years ago from a hi-if dealer that was closing down.

After a lot of research and considering different options, I decided my Black boxes needed a much better Rack, so I decided to bite the bullet and go for the full fraim. 

Im looking forward to finding out if the cost is going to be justified??

 

Posted on: 23 March 2018 by wenger2015
Filipe posted:
wenger2015 posted:
S3 posted:

I guess if there is a risk of children touching any of the equipment then best to use them even if only for piece of mind. 

Yes, I do have two grandchildren to consider, so probably best to be safe

And if you are like me your put the protection over the speaker cones! Look forward to hearing more (pun intended)!

Phil

Fortunately I have a separate listening room so less of an issue but I usually keep the protective panels on just in case..

Posted on: 23 March 2018 by Filipe
Clive B posted:

The plastic retaining rings can most easily be applied by turning the glass over and using the position of the balls to  identify the ideal position. This is better than trying to use the paper template which is not precise enough. 

BTW black on black is top choice IMHO!

Clive, Thanks for the tip.

Just to be certain, is this correct?

1. turn the glass upside down

2. position It

3. set the plastic retaining rings on the glass over each bearing.

The glass is then flipped over and put on the bearings.

This does require the front edge of the glass to be parallel to the front edge of the shelf.

Is it necessary to periodically check the retaining rings do not touch the ball bearings?

Phil

Posted on: 23 March 2018 by The Strat (Fender)
wenger2015 posted:

Fraim has finally arrived 

Setting up the Mu-So Qb wasn’t that complex

Posted on: 23 March 2018 by wenger2015
The Strat (Fender) posted:
wenger2015 posted:

Fraim has finally arrived 

Setting up the Mu-So Qb wasn’t that complex

I’m still waiting for planning permission and building regulations 

Posted on: 23 March 2018 by Clive B
Filipe posted:
Clive B posted:

The plastic retaining rings can most easily be applied by turning the glass over and using the position of the balls to  identify the ideal position. This is better than trying to use the paper template which is not precise enough. 

BTW black on black is top choice IMHO!

Clive, Thanks for the tip.

Just to be certain, is this correct?

1. turn the glass upside down

2. position It

3. set the plastic retaining rings on the glass over each bearing.

The glass is then flipped over and put on the bearings.

This does require the front edge of the glass to be parallel to the front edge of the shelf.

Is it necessary to periodically check the retaining rings do not touch the ball bearings?

Phil

Yes that’s right. That assumes, of course, that you do the dong/donk test to determine which is the right way up for the glass. Regarding the glass being parallel to the front of the shelf, I have mine level with the front. It shouldn’t be necessary to check the alignment so long as you don’t knock the stack. It should remain in the right place. FWIW I only have the retaining rings on two shelves (for the NDS and the LP12) - eight of my Fraim shelves were purchased before the rings were introduced. 

Posted on: 23 March 2018 by TOBYJUG
wenger2015 posted:

Fraim has finally arrived 

That's one big box of lego.  Christmas Day might run into Boxing Day building it all. Take your time and enjoy it. 

 

Posted on: 24 March 2018 by spurrier sucks

Is that custom built CD storage in the pic?

Posted on: 24 March 2018 by wenger2015
spurrier sucks posted:

Is that custom built CD storage in the pic?

Not totally, purchased unit and tweaked to my requirements 

Posted on: 25 March 2018 by Massimo Bertola
wenger2015 posted:

Fraim has finally arrived 

Seven likes to a picture of Fraim boxes! Didn't your moms and your parsons tell you that you can become blind doing that?

Posted on: 25 March 2018 by wenger2015
Max_B posted:
wenger2015 posted:

Fraim has finally arrived 

Seven likes to a picture of Fraim boxes! Didn't your moms and your parsons tell you that you can become blind doing that?

One box has been opened to be fair...

Posted on: 25 March 2018 by ct

Am very envious, what a great Sunday afternoon pastime.

I've been looking at Fraim for a future upgrade, and possibly black/black though this seems something that is quite rare. I wonder if you'd be happy to share pictures of the results of yours, as personally I think its a stunning look, let alone the possible performance benefits this upgrade may bring?

 

Posted on: 25 March 2018 by wenger2015

CT    Very happy to share some photos once constructed.

The delivery coincided with me being away for a week, so unfortunately no fraim build until next weekend. 

I am very much hoping to provide some very positive feedback. 

Posted on: 01 April 2018 by wenger2015

Well today is the day I was hoping to build the 2 stacks of fraim?

I have just opened the first set of Boxes and the Base level is in Black but the other levels are in Maple, the second set of Boxes I have a Base in Maple and the other levels in Black.

Unbeliveable !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on: 01 April 2018 by Finkfan

Gutted Wenger! 

We can still build the black rack today if you want??

Posted on: 01 April 2018 by Clive B

 Have fun building. 

Posted on: 01 April 2018 by S3

April fool??