I hope its worth it?

Posted by: wenger2015 on 15 February 2018

After much deliberation I have decided to order two Full Naim Fraims, base plus three shelves in Black.

Having spent sometime researching Racks and looking at other options, I have convinced myself that despite the considerable cost that it will be money well spent.......

I am very much hoping that I won’t be disappointed???????

Posted on: 01 April 2018 by wenger2015
TOBYJUG posted:

Why the medium and not the standard ?

I like the feel of space between the boxes, the extra height makes it easier for cable hanging and possible future upgrades...

 

Posted on: 01 April 2018 by nigelb
wenger2015 posted:
TOBYJUG posted:

Why the medium and not the standard ?

I like the feel of space between the boxes, the extra height makes it easier for cable hanging and possible future upgrades...

 

Also anything that can create extra space between and around boxes can only help with isolation and hence SQ. It looks great too.

Congrats, got there in the end. Hope you do think it is worth it.

Posted on: 01 April 2018 by wenger2015
nigelb posted

Also anything that can create extra space between and around boxes can only help with isolation and hence SQ. It looks great too.

Congrats, got there in the end. Hope you do think it is worth it.

From what I have heard so far, I am very pleased to say I am absolutely delighted..

Posted on: 01 April 2018 by The Strat (Fender)

Nice job.  Excellent.  

Posted on: 01 April 2018 by Chris Dolan

I looks excellent and I'm sure that it makes a big difference. I am also a fan of medium space Fraim 

Posted on: 01 April 2018 by wenger2015

I’m extremely pleased to say that everyone on the forum that provided me with some much needed reassurance, were absolutely bang on the money, to coin a phase....

The system has had a few more hours to bed in and I am totally astonished with such an significant improvement...... 

the dynamic, the detail, the clarity that has arrived is exceptional....it feels as if the Black boxes have been holding back and their true potential is being fulfilled...

I am without doubt elated.

So thanks everyone for the positive comments... and general tips and advice in assembling the fraim. (And Finkfan for his expertise today)

If anyone is thinking about spending their hard earned money on a Naim Fraim then rest assured it will be money well spent.

 

 

Posted on: 02 April 2018 by Richard Dane

That's excellent news Wenger.  Looks great too. 

Posted on: 02 April 2018 by wenger2015
Richard Dane posted:

That's excellent news Wenger.  Looks great too. 

Thanks Richard,

I am genuinely amazed with such an significant improvement in all areas, truly remarkable.

 

Posted on: 02 April 2018 by Chag...

Wait until it burns in.. ????

Chag -

Posted on: 02 April 2018 by wenger2015
Chag... posted:

Wait until it burns in.. ????

Chag -

Might be more to come then ?

Posted on: 02 April 2018 by ct

Looks stunning, thanks for sharing the pictures & enjoy the music!

Posted on: 02 April 2018 by ayap1
Chag... posted:

Wait until it burns in.. ????

Chag -

WHAT——-The Fraim??

Wenger,those are really nice Fraims,black on black on black and glad to hear you found improvement in SQ..

Posted on: 02 April 2018 by james n
Chag... posted:

Wait until it burns in.. ????

Chag -

You're a day late ... 

Posted on: 02 April 2018 by wenger2015
james n posted:
Chag... posted:

Wait until it burns in.. ????

Chag -

You're a day late ... 

I wouldn’t be surprised if the boxes take a little time to settle down after being removed and reconnected.... or have I totally lost the plot...?

Posted on: 02 April 2018 by james n

Yeah Naim kit seems to need a day or two to get fully back into the groove after a few hours of powering down so that's not unlikely.

Posted on: 02 April 2018 by No quarter

Looks really nice WENGER,I am glad it all worked out well for you.Myself I did not hear THAT significant an improvement when I added my Fraim,but I do not regret buying it for one minute.I just wonder if in your case,a supercap DR would of brought more??

Posted on: 03 April 2018 by wenger2015
No quarter posted:

Looks really nice WENGER,I am glad it all worked out well for you.Myself I did not hear THAT significant an improvement when I added my Fraim,but I do not regret buying it for one minute.I just wonder if in your case,a supercap DR would of brought more??

Possibly in my case the previous rack I was using, despite my adaptations to it, was far worse then I realised....hence the Significant improvement....

as for SC dr, logically that’s the next move for me, but I’m quite happy to just enjoy this upgrade 

Posted on: 03 April 2018 by Filipe
wenger2015 posted:
No quarter posted:

Looks really nice WENGER,I am glad it all worked out well for you.Myself I did not hear THAT significant an improvement when I added my Fraim,but I do not regret buying it for one minute.I just wonder if in your case,a supercap DR would of brought more??

Possibly in my case the previous rack I was using, despite my adaptations to it, was far worse then I realised....hence the Significant improvement....

as for SC dr, logically that’s the next move for me, but I’m quite happy to just enjoy this upgrade 

Would depend on whether No Quarter had medium legs like you or long legs. These do make a difference, as does cable dressing and other aspects of setup.

Enjoy the fact that you are getting big benefits!

Phil

Posted on: 03 April 2018 by wenger2015
Filipe posted:
wenger2015 posted:
No quarter posted:

Looks really nice WENGER,I am glad it all worked out well for you.Myself I did not hear THAT significant an improvement when I added my Fraim,but I do not regret buying it for one minute.I just wonder if in your case,a supercap DR would of brought more??

Possibly in my case the previous rack I was using, despite my adaptations to it, was far worse then I realised....hence the Significant improvement....

as for SC dr, logically that’s the next move for me, but I’m quite happy to just enjoy this upgrade 

Would depend on whether No Quarter had medium legs like you or long legs. These do make a difference, as does cable dressing and other aspects of setup.

Enjoy the fact that you are getting big benefits!

Phil

Yes, I thought it would be a good idea to have the extra height with the medium legs, keeps those burndies nicely off the floor, helps with the other interconnects,, plus some boxes benefit with having more space 

Posted on: 03 April 2018 by No quarter

Actually I have one set of tall legs on the bottom shelf,and three regular shelves above.Cables are all dressed,nothing touches the floor,or any other cable.Top shelf is 272,below it is Core,below that is my Teac CD/DSD player,next is the 250 DR,and on the bottom(with tall legs) is the XPSDR.It might be just that I had a good solid setup before I bought the Fraim...it did sound better,just not earth shattering.

Posted on: 03 April 2018 by wenger2015
No quarter posted:

Actually I have one set of tall legs on the bottom shelf,and three regular shelves above.Cables are all dressed,nothing touches the floor,or any other cable.Top shelf is 272,below it is Core,below that is my Teac CD/DSD player,next is the 250 DR,and on the bottom(with tall legs) is the XPSDR.It might be just that I had a good solid setup before I bought the Fraim...it did sound better,just not earth shattering.

Sounds like you have got your set up just right.

I assume the Sopra’s are staying?

Posted on: 03 April 2018 by S3
No quarter posted:

Actually I have one set of tall legs on the bottom shelf,and three regular shelves above.Cables are all dressed,nothing touches the floor,or any other cable.Top shelf is 272,below it is Core,below that is my Teac CD/DSD player,next is the 250 DR,and on the bottom(with tall legs) is the XPSDR.It might be just that I had a good solid setup before I bought the Fraim...it did sound better,just not earth shattering.

Have you considered moving the core away from the rest of your system? I found doing that with my UnitiServe made a difference. 

Posted on: 03 April 2018 by No quarter

WENGER

Yes the Sopras are staying,I have also just ordered Superlumina speaker cables and Din to XLR.

S3

No I have not considered moving the Core,I just ordered a DC1 cable to connect it to my 272,which I thought was the best way to connect it???

Posted on: 03 April 2018 by wenger2015
No quarter posted:

WENGER

Yes the Sopras are staying,I have also just ordered Superlumina speaker cables and Din to XLR.

 

I think your new Cables will be what we call ‘the icing on the cake’. 

The cables will make a significant improvement once they have bedded in.

keep us posted 

Posted on: 03 April 2018 by No quarter
wenger2015 posted:
No quarter posted:

WENGER

Yes the Sopras are staying,I have also just ordered Superlumina speaker cables and Din to XLR.

 

I think your new Cables will be what we call ‘the icing on the cake’. 

The cables will make a significant improvement once they have bedded in.

keep us posted 

I hope so Wenger,maybe you noticed a bigger improvement than me with Fraim,because you have already installed high end cables...and I am using the stock Din to Xlr,and Naca5.I have read plenty of threads here about the Superlumina cables,and the break in required.