I hope its worth it?

Posted by: wenger2015 on 15 February 2018

After much deliberation I have decided to order two Full Naim Fraims, base plus three shelves in Black.

Having spent sometime researching Racks and looking at other options, I have convinced myself that despite the considerable cost that it will be money well spent.......

I am very much hoping that I won’t be disappointed???????

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Richieroo

Hi what sort of floor are your new racks resting on?

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by wenger2015
Richieroo posted:

Hi what sort of floor are your new racks resting on?

Carpet on top of concrete 

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Allante93
wenger2015 posted:

After much deliberation I have decided to order two Full Naim Fraims, base plus three shelves in Black.

Having spent sometime researching Racks and looking at other options, I have convinced myself that despite the considerable cost that it will be money well spent.......

I am very much hoping that I won’t be disappointed???????

I doubt you will be disappointed!

Especially Black, Great move!

 

Allante93!

 

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Willy
Richard Dane posted:

Filipe, I was told it was most likely emissions from the oak (which continue at low levels for many years even after the wood is long dead) that caused the problem, but your explanation does sound more plausible.

Maybe you need to trap those emissions is some sort of medium, oh I don't know, perhaps alcohol would work? After you've done that for 12-15 years send it to me and I'll dispose of it for you.

Willy.

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Filipe
Willy posted:
Richard Dane posted:

Filipe, I was told it was most likely emissions from the oak (which continue at low levels for many years even after the wood is long dead) that caused the problem, but your explanation does sound more plausible.

Maybe you need to trap those emissions is some sort of medium, oh I don't know, perhaps alcohol would work? After you've done that for 12-15 years send it to me and I'll dispose of it for you.

Willy.

Willy, Sounds like a Ghostbusters job! Hope you are feeling better.

Phil

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Richard Dane
Filipe posted:
Willy posted:
Richard Dane posted:

Filipe, I was told it was most likely emissions from the oak (which continue at low levels for many years even after the wood is long dead) that caused the problem, but your explanation does sound more plausible.

Maybe you need to trap those emissions is some sort of medium, oh I don't know, perhaps alcohol would work? After you've done that for 12-15 years send it to me and I'll dispose of it for you.

Willy.

...Sounds like a Ghostbusters job!...

I'm guessing that spirits may well be involved...

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Willy
Filipe posted:
Willy posted:
Richard Dane posted:

Filipe, I was told it was most likely emissions from the oak (which continue at low levels for many years even after the wood is long dead) that caused the problem, but your explanation does sound more plausible.

Maybe you need to trap those emissions is some sort of medium, oh I don't know, perhaps alcohol would work? After you've done that for 12-15 years send it to me and I'll dispose of it for you.

Willy.

Willy, Sounds like a Ghostbusters job! Hope you are feeling better.

Phil

Phil,

All moving in the right direction. Mornings, getting everything moving again, are unpleasant. Once that's over the days aren't too bad. Half the battle is figuring out what you can and cannot do. I'm fortunately fit enough to be able to make good use of arms and legs getting into and out of bed/chairs. Then you reach for a cup on a shelf and....now regard anything above eyelevel as out of range.

Weaned myself  off the opioids yesterday and getting by with paracetamol and some shouting. Working up to a beer soon!

Willy.

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Willy
Richard Dane posted:
Filipe posted:
Willy posted:
Richard Dane posted:

Filipe, I was told it was most likely emissions from the oak (which continue at low levels for many years even after the wood is long dead) that caused the problem, but your explanation does sound more plausible.

Maybe you need to trap those emissions is some sort of medium, oh I don't know, perhaps alcohol would work? After you've done that for 12-15 years send it to me and I'll dispose of it for you.

Willy.

...Sounds like a Ghostbusters job!...

I'm guessing that spirits may well be involved...

Richard,

As a nation we're a very spiritual people. It has also been observed that we're quite factional. There are those whow seek long term spiritual enlightenment of a Sunday morning and those (myself included) who are more inclined to pursue shorter term spiritual relief of a Saturday night.

As soon as I've recovered to an adequate level I shall resume my search for spiritual enlightenment. In the mean time I might just take the Dr's advice in this matter. Dr Thirsty, who is recommending one of his No.4 Blondes.????

Willy.

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Clive B
Filipe posted:
My one gripe is that the racks may start level but by the fifth level they are out a bit.

Phil

Which can be most infuriating if you're planning to place a turntable on the top shelf!

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Filipe
Clive B posted:
Filipe posted:
My one gripe is that the racks may start level but by the fifth level they are out a bit.

Phil

Which can be most infuriating if you're planning to place a turntable on the top shelf!

Exactly, Clive. I have some Christmas cracker sized cards which are used. Now they go under the Fraim cup for the TT! Does this happen with other racks. One theory is that it’s the carpet spikes sinking. 

Sorry I have not got back to you. I’m overseeing workmen in another property at the moment. Also, I’m letting the 252 mature a bit. Do you have any time at the weekend? 

Phil

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by wenger2015
Filipe posted:
Clive B posted:
Filipe posted:
My one gripe is that the racks may start level but by the fifth level they are out a bit.

Phil

Which can be most infuriating if you're planning to place a turntable on the top shelf!

Exactly, Clive. I have some Christmas cracker sized cards which are used. Now they go under the Fraim cup for the TT! Does this happen with other racks. One theory is that it’s the carpet spike sinking.

Phil

I think the key is to not stand on the base level but push it down firmly into the carpet, and make sure it’s level and solid before moving to the next shelve, I noticed whilst building the rack that this could be a potential problem.

In fact this issue was mentioned somewhere back in this thread and this was the advice given. 

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Clive B
wenger2015 posted:
Filipe posted:
Clive B posted:
Filipe posted:
My one gripe is that the racks may start level but by the fifth level they are out a bit.

Phil

Which can be most infuriating if you're planning to place a turntable on the top shelf!

Exactly, Clive. I have some Christmas cracker sized cards which are used. Now they go under the Fraim cup for the TT! Does this happen with other racks. One theory is that it’s the carpet spike sinking.

Phil

I think the key is to not stand on the base level but push it down firmly into the carpet, and make sure it’s level and solid before moving to the next shelve, I noticed whilst building the rack that this could be a potential problem.

In fact this issue was mentioned somewhere back in this thread and this was the advice given. 

In my case the Fraims are in Naim Chips onto a solid oak floor, so there's no sinking into anything. I guess it's due to tolerance build up, which, over a number of shelves, can lead to difficulties.

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by HiFiman

Good foundations is key to everything we build.

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by wenger2015
HiFiman posted:

Good foundations is key to everything we build.

I’ve had to get planning permission before starting to build the racks and building regulations, I’m just waiting to get mine signed off.....

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by Clive B
wenger2015 posted:
HiFiman posted:

Good foundations is key to everything we build.

I’ve had to get planning permission before starting to build the racks and building regulations, I’m just waiting to get mine signed off.....

I guess it helps that SWMBO actually likes the design!

Posted on: 05 April 2018 by wenger2015
Clive B posted:
wenger2015 posted:
HiFiman posted:

Good foundations is key to everything we build.

I’ve had to get planning permission before starting to build the racks and building regulations, I’m just waiting to get mine signed off.....

I guess it helps that SWMBO actually likes the design!

SWMBO is very happy with my choices, it helps having my own listening room of course 

Posted on: 07 April 2018 by HiFiman

Setup my newly arrived Naim fraim today as promised I have posted a few pics and updated System Pics as i don't wish to hijack Wenger2015 thread.

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...25#75201749033353025

First thoughts one I think it it looks great, two an overall improvement in audio quality but the kit is warming up after been switched off for a couple of hours so a final verdict in a few days.

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 07 April 2018 by wenger2015
HiFiman posted:

Setup my newly arrived Naim fraim today as promised I have posted a few pics and updated System Pics as i don't wish to hijack Wenger2015 thread.

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...25#75201749033353025

First thoughts one I think it it looks great, two an overall improvement in audio quality but the kit is warming up after been switched off for a couple of hours so a final verdict in a few days.

 

 

 

 

Looks great, you must be delighted, it will be interesting to hear your thoughts after everything has settled down?

ps love the TT and the supporting shelf.

 

Posted on: 08 April 2018 by Will99
nigelb posted:

Did you hear about the obsessive dyslexic. Yeah, he had full-blown COD!

l'll get me coat.

Or the agnostic dyslexic insomniac - who would lie awake at night wondering if there really was a Dog.

*hiding*

 

Posted on: 08 April 2018 by Mike-B

I can't remember if I've got amnesia, dyslexia or dyscalculia. Its' defiantly won of the four because if ........... ??? …...... sorry I forget waht I woz I slaying