Replacing 804d2’ with mission 70’s driven by n272/250dr

Posted by: Petersfi on 15 February 2018

Having boxed the B&W’s in anticipation of moving house, unfortunately delayed, I subbed in the missions temporarily. The70’s had not been  used in 20 years. On spikes, and connected  to the naim pairing via audio quest cables 5x the price,  and in a large room, those little $250 (1982 pricing) speakers are a joy. 

Had I not invested in the B&W’s, not sure I’d miss them

Guess that’s validation that the source electronics are paramount

 

 

Posted on: 15 February 2018 by Japtimscarlet

That brings back memories

I had a nait 1 into 70s in 1984 ..and they blow me away back then ( on decent weighted stands)

I replaced them with 770s and regretted it straight away

Posted on: 16 February 2018 by james n
Petersfi posted:

Guess that’s validation that the source electronics are paramount

Yes, but the 70's are fun speakers and will sound good on the end of most things. Back in the day, fronted with an LP12 and one of the budget Nytech or Quantum amps you'd wonder why it was worth spending more.

Technology moves on, but a budget two way speaker with a very simple crossover can still be a lot of fun.

Posted on: 16 February 2018 by PaulH

I still run a pair of 20+ year old 70s in my second system on a pair of spiked stands with mission speaker cable, they have never disappointed. 

Posted on: 16 February 2018 by badlands
Petersfi posted:

Guess that’s validation that the source electronics are paramount

 

 

Or looking at it from a different perspective, how good were the Mission speakers?

Mission speakers were part of my first ever purchase of a real stereo system, Mission 700S speakers. I bought them without any knowledge of where they were made, I never heard of the brand, or how much they cost. I bought them strictly because they sounded the best out of a group of many speakers I was listening to.

What a concept, buying just based on what YOUR ears tell you, no bias, or preconceived notions, there was no such thing as internet influence, (the internet wasn't invented yet)  just good old fashioned listening.

Posted on: 16 February 2018 by analogmusic

so which speakers are you using now Badlands?

Posted on: 17 February 2018 by yeti42

I started with 700s too in 1980, they’d just come out. Did 28 years  in my main system including 7 house moves before I got my own place. The bass driver surrounds went a couple of times and I reworked the crossovers as 1st order. They saw off some Royd Doublets but not Thiel 1.6s. They made a comeback for a couple of months when I had to move the system into the dining room, where the Thiels wouldn’t fit, to allow for some building work and they reminded me just how enjoyable they were, this time with a 250 giving them what for.

Posted on: 17 February 2018 by benjy

Had a tough decision back in the 70's between Mission 710s and (i think) Mission 720s- bought the 710s - one of the few speakers I wish I had kept for a 2nd system,they paired well with my yamaha cr-820 and then apt holman pre and hafler 280. I think I moved on to snell j-2 at that point. I used to keep a running list of  system pieces but the pages got too long . Although first system "standard" amplifer and tuner,garrard 40 and liberty 100 speakers (store brand). The amp died a year later and they wanted almost as much to look at the insides as it cost,so for the grand fee of $25.00 traded up to a kenwood ka-2500.

Posted on: 17 February 2018 by The Strat (Fender)

I can remember back in 79ish my pal had a Dual 505/NAD 3020/Mission 70s and it sounded just superb.   A little while later we then tried them in my room on my Ariston 80/Rotel 840 and they were awful - the treble was real paint removing stuff.  Synergy and room I guess.  

Posted on: 18 February 2018 by Mike-B

Yep the Mission 70's were a little on the aggressive side.    I still have a pair, they fit perfectly in my 2nd dining room system.  A long while back I measured them & was a little shocked at what I had become used to .      I modified the crossover to reduce both the treble peaking & the overall treble volume level & I now have it +/- 2dB flat from 50Hz to 12kHz & its pretty good for the lower "fine dining" volume that we run them at.