NAIM AUDIO NAIM AUDIO annnounces ND5 XS 2, NDX 2 & ND 555 NETWORK PLAYERS

They must have seen the same announcement on www.naim last week   ...........   https://www.naimaudio.com/network-players

Have they discontinued the NDS ? - We need to know ??

james n posted:

Have they discontinued the NDS ? - We need to know ??

Why not look at the website... https://www.naimaudio.com/product/nds

No sign of an NDS then...   and no hint of an availability date for its replacement.

One is left wondering about the thought processes down there in Salisbury  (if that's where the marketing campaigns are still hatched).

Maybe they are encouraging customers to move to the new Uniti range of products now that they are finally delivering them... but there again, "no" they can't be that disconnected from their traditional customer base... or can they?

The words gun, foot, shoot are coming to mind...

...or am I reading fake news, perhaps?

I can only wonder what the Naim NAG looked and sounded like.

Did the Dutch magazine really miss the scoop on the Aro2 and nDac2?

see the « new streamers « topic, all is shown.  Nds is discontinued, only nd5xs2, ndx2 and nd555.

sorry , the name of the topic is «  new network streamers »

So there will be nothing in the price interval between £4k and £14k. I am aware prices have not been finalised, but this seems to be a rather large gap. Is there some logical explanation?

AndrewG posted:

So there will be nothing in the price interval between £4k and £14k. I am aware prices have not been finalised, but this seems to be a rather large gap. Is there some logical explanation?

Diminishing returns?

G

Ardbeg10y posted:

Did the Dutch magazine really miss the scoop on the Aro2 and nDac2?

Aro 2, Say what!

Naim Guy posted:

Ardbeg10y posted:

Did the Dutch magazine really miss the scoop on the Aro2 and nDac2?

Aro 2, Say what!

It was a joke, don’t get too hopeful.

There’s at least two other threads that have been exploring aspects of this, with many contributions on both...

I raised the question of a NDS replacement at the Show and it ain't going to happen. I was told that the NDX2 was a significant improvement over the NDX and technically it was impossible to design and build a streamer (NDS replacement) that bridged the large price and performance gap that now lies between the NDX2 and the ND555.

So apparently the old NDS is the new NDS, but you can only get them secondhand. I'm therefore hanging on to mine!

nigelb posted:

I raised the question of a NDS replacement at the Show and it ain't going to happen. I was told that the NDX2 was a significant improvement over the NDX and technically it was impossible to design and build a streamer (NDS replacement) that bridged the large price and performance gap that now lies between the NDX2 and the ND555.

So apparently the old NDS is the new NDS, but you can only get them secondhand. I'm therefore hanging on to mine!

I'm in that club too. 

dave marshall posted:

nigelb posted:

I raised the question of a NDS replacement at the Show and it ain't going to happen. I was told that the NDX2 was a significant improvement over the NDX and technically it was impossible to design and build a streamer (NDS replacement) that bridged the large price and performance gap that now lies between the NDX2 and the ND555.

So apparently the old NDS is the new NDS, but you can only get them secondhand. I'm therefore hanging on to mine!

I'm in that club too. 

I recon my old, out of date NDS's value must lie somewhere between £4k and £13k, and going up in value each day!

@ NigelB did you ask about a dac replacement following the streamer launches?

nigelb posted:

dave marshall posted:

nigelb posted:

I raised the question of a NDS replacement at the Show and it ain't going to happen. I was told that the NDX2 was a significant improvement over the NDX and technically it was impossible to design and build a streamer (NDS replacement) that bridged the large price and performance gap that now lies between the NDX2 and the ND555.

So apparently the old NDS is the new NDS, but you can only get them secondhand. I'm therefore hanging on to mine!

I'm in that club too. 

I recon my old, out of date NDS's value must lie somewhere between £4k and £13k, and going up in value each day!

Who needs Bitcoin , we'll be rolling in it in a few year's time. 

Alba1320 posted:

(with apologies for going OT )

@ RJSTAINES

How are you getting on with the CD555? Good/bad/indifferent (particularly in light of being an NDS owner)?

Wouldn't be without either !

The CD555 has now been serviced and is doing what a CD555 does well... it's playing CDs.   But as you might imagine, what I'm hearing on those CDs is second to nothing I've ever heard from a CD player before, there's more of it and it's all in the right place.

And since you mention the NDS, on the rare occasion when curiosity overtakes me and I find myself listening to a CD and to the same album on the NDS, it's a similar effect to listeing to the same album on vinyl (LP12)... there's a notable difference.  One is not 'better' than another, they are different presentations.  Vinyl to digital you might describe as 'night and day',  CD555 to NDS you might desceribe as 'early morning to early evening'; both wonderful times of the day, and both are times to be enjoyed and savoured.

I'm wondering what the ND555 will bring with it.  There still will be differences in presentation and maybe the phrase 'night and day' will be bandied about more than it is now.  I for one can't wait to hear it.  Unfortunately I don't have a clue how I'm going to afford it.

Oh, and the ATC active SCM100's are warming up nicely, having been playing for around 10 hours a day for a few weeks now... am I missing my NAP500 and B&W 802 D2's ?   Absolutely not.

Roger

Gazza posted:

@ NigelB did you ask about a dac replacement following the streamer launches?

Sorry Gazza, I didn't ask about a DAC replacement. There was no sign or talk of one though. But Naim could be keeping their cards close to their chest. And who can blame them with the leak over the ND555 spoiling their launch somewhat.

I guess we will have to wait and see.

Thanks Nigel for the time in updating the forum....not sure I am up to a Bristoll Hifi Show. My first was the 2017 Audio show East just passed, really enjoyed the relaxed atmosphere, Bristol seems a bit hectic, and far away. So thanks to everyone who bothered to post their experience

gazza

Bing Teng posted:

I read this in a Dutch online magazine which has usually great scoops.

No flies on the Dutch audio press!

Gazza posted:

Thanks Nigel for the time in updating the forum....not sure I am up to a Bristoll Hifi Show. My first was the 2017 Audio show East just passed, really enjoyed the relaxed atmosphere, Bristol seems a bit hectic, and far away. So thanks to everyone who bothered to post their experience

gazza

Gazza, I too was at the 2017 Audio East Show for the first time and indeed it was much more relaxing than the Bristol Show. There is so much at Bristol you have to have a game plan which in itself makes the whole experience a little more intense.

nigelb posted:

I raised the question of a NDS replacement at the Show and it ain't going to happen. I was told that the NDX2 was a significant improvement over the NDX and technically it was impossible to design and build a streamer (NDS replacement) that bridged the large price and performance gap that now lies between the NDX2 and the ND555.

So apparently the old NDS is the new NDS, but you can only get them secondhand. I'm therefore hanging on to mine!

perhaps because the nd555 costs 50% more and sounds only 5% better than the nds.  So if they keep the nds in their catalog, not many people will accept to pay double price of the nds with only 5% sound quality improvement.  Just speculating...