Mac owners!
Posted by: dave marshall on 31 August 2011
Hi Guys,
Just returned from the Leeds Summer Streaming Event, and one of several questions I put the the Naim folk present was yet another enquiry as to how much longer we Mac users might have to wait until the desktop client software becomes available.
The answer was "we're working on it right now", though with no real clue as to when it will be published.
So, nothing new there then, I won't be holding my breath, I'm afraid. 
I know this is not exactly a new topic, but the reply received represents the official viewpoint, as of today.
Maybe if everyone were to add their thoughts on this, in an attempt to show the Kremlin just how many there are of us, whose HDX's etc are limping along, with limited functionality, then the whole process might be speeded up.
After all, I may be wrong, but every printer I've bought for years now has always included software for both Mac and Windoze.
Names please, and Naim...........take note, there's a substantial number of less than happy people out here, who've signed up for the streaming revolution.........(it's the future!), ......only to find that things are less than perfect.
Regards,
Dave.
Thanks Tog. No great hurry, since retiring I don’t get the opportunity of old boxes, so still don’t have one to try this out on.
I would be the first to admit that the difference between flac and WAV is minimal, but have convinced myself that I have a preference for WAV; or should that be that the streamer has?
Peter
Hi everyone
Santa bought me a UnitiServe for Christmas
Anyone any idea as to when the Mac desktop client might be available?
See your posts from September so assume still waiting?
Mac user here as well. To edit my HDX music via the remote handset is painfull to say the least.
So MAC version soon as well please !
Yes I am Mac user also. Over a year ago I was on the market for a Unitiserve, a Uniqute and an Naim DAC but after auditions I ended up only buying the DAC and then nipping over to the Apple shop and getting a Mac Mini, iPad, and a couple of Airport express. I also got a Qnap NAS. The system was up running and stable in a couple of days beautifully controlled by the "FREE" Apple remote app, using iTunes and it is all multi room via Airplay. My grand children and other visitors can even put in requests when they come round via their ipod or iPhone. Now that is how you give users what they want - nice tight integration, great stability, and very user focussed. God bless Apple for making technical things very usable.
Never mind Naim.... but one sale out of 3 is not really what I was hoping for but I am now extremely happy with my setup and would still not have been if I had waited for Naim.
I have Mac Lion, just learning iTunes and all the techno talk. Sounds fab tho.
I think people (men lets be honest) get far to hung up about the peripheries.
Its surely about the quality of music replay and the music. Not whether it has the correct 300pixal art work attached
I think people (men lets be honest) get far to hung up about the peripheries.
Its surely about the quality of music replay and the music. Not whether it has the correct 300pixal art work attached
I agree that it is all about the music but it does help to be able to find an album easily if you have the correct artwork rather than the default music icon. I find that I recognise albums quicker by a picture of it rather than text and a default icon. I also question the "men lets be honest" bit, humans in general can recognise an image quicker.
There is a sense of order and completeness that I seek by trying to ensure all the artwork is correct. Strange but true.
For me it's just the practicality of being able to identify the music by the album cover like I do with the real world cd or vinyl.
Sound always comes first, but no need for being too spartanic. Like he idea of flipping through albums visually on my iPhone. Will we get a Genius for Naim? I'd love to use the whole music collation for Genius (have it on iTunes, Flac and Wav). In addition could downsampling be integrated into the software as well?
Music is a sonic phenomenon. I have no use for art-work, or even the physical carrier for recorded music - CD, vinyl or shellac discs,. I conclude that Radio is the least encumbered medium.
If you give the art-work a miss then life become really simple.
ATB from George
Sorry - but that is a quote from some one who knows nothing and blindly repeats what he hears on the web. Flash is client side software, PHP is server side software. These can coexist or not depending on your choice. There are a large number of technology choices available each of which should be considered in an informed and unemotional manner before opening your mouth.
Dons tin hat and body armour....
the most effective way to improve the lot of the most people would be to port nstream and nserve to Android...
I second that opinion - there are far more android phones in circulation that IPhone ones - Be aware though that there are very good uPnP control points already for anrdroid - Bubble uPnP springs to mind.
I like your usage of 'have the best tablet (full HD next iteration)' when you mean 'may have the best tablet (rumoured to have full HD next iteration)' :-)
I don't want to control my Naim from a pad (android or iOS) I prefer to use my phone. And there can be no denying that apple have fallen behind in the phone hardware stake recently - just look at Galaxy S 2, Galaxy Note and Galaxy Nexus for three phone that are extremely popular and have way better hardware and software then iPhones.
I have an htc, the software, look and feel is a bunch of arse. A friend last night offered me a htc desire when she upgrades, which i will try to see if its any better, but she says she cannot wait to get an iphone.
I also have a sony experia, which at least is usable, but has a tendancy to not let you answer an incoming call.
As usual when there is no other argument, how fast the processor is, is wheeled out. But simple hardwar specs is not enough. I notice that the new ginger bread manages to look like a managled mess as well.
Garyi
it's horse for courses - I have owned many recent smart phones (I am a mobile developer) - iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3Gs, iPhone 4, HTC desire, HTC Desire 2, Samsung Galaxy S 2, Galaxy Nexus, Samsung Galaxy Note.
I also own an iPad and multiple android tablets (Sony S, Acer A500, Motorola Xoom). I also have a Blackberry Playbook.
You know what? They all have issues, they all crash from time to time - even the iOS devices (in fact my iPad exhibited a complete hang and crash requiring a complete reset just yesterday), but I can categorically state this:
Android has improved rapidly and massively in the last 2 years - Why do you think that the Galaxy S 2 has won so many awards - why are android phone now the dominant phone in the market place.
iOS has stagnated and developed very slowly, is becoming less stable (My iPhone 4 with iOS 5 on it crashes regularly) and is now playing catch up to features that android has had for several years (notifications in iOS 5 - my god, too little too late).
But these are just my opinions that I have formed through much usage of these devices.
There is room for everything, and one must not be blinded by how good/bad things were in the past.
However in such a case one would still need to transform the PCM into the class D pulses. D designs I have seen still need ana analogue input into the class D comparators.
Class D or digital amps, is just another class variant, that can produce very efficient amps often used in high output PA systems but, that recently have started to sound encouraging for hifi on a smaller basis.
I think however there is great merit in having the DAC as the preamp or controller, feeding mono blocks very closely sited to the speakers, or even driving active speakers.
Simon
> Why do you think that the Galaxy S 2 has won so many awards - why are android phone now the dominant phone in the market place.
Clever marketing? That is how awards are usually won in the IT industry.
.... oh no, and I made a new year's resolution not to be so cynical.
I'm sure the android is fine ..... bring back land lines
Sorry Tog,
you're right I don't know you and so all I have to go on are posts. So when you suggested that Flash and PHP might be answers to the same problem (which they are not) I had to assume you didn't know what you were talking about.
Naim will definitely support the iPad as they were including one in the recent Uniti packages - I couldn't careless if they support Android or not, don't mind if they do for these that want it, but for me they need to support iOS and Airplay - which is exactly what I want 
Very happy with the iPad and ATV and with the iPad HD and premier league football coming to ATV, the futire is so bright I gotta wear shades.
Also worth noting the new Mac Mini is a great music server, just add Naim DAC/555PS and it is hard to beat. Who would have expected Apple to upgrade its optical out to such high quality.
I agree about Flash - who needs it .... glad to see it go.
Garyi
it's horse for courses - I have owned many recent smart phones (I am a mobile developer) - iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3Gs, iPhone 4, HTC desire, HTC Desire 2, Samsung Galaxy S 2, Galaxy Nexus, Samsung Galaxy Note.
I also own an iPad and multiple android tablets (Sony S, Acer A500, Motorola Xoom). I also have a Blackberry Playbook.
You know what? They all have issues, they all crash from time to time - even the iOS devices (in fact my iPad exhibited a complete hang and crash requiring a complete reset just yesterday), but I can categorically state this:
Android has improved rapidly and massively in the last 2 years - Why do you think that the Galaxy S 2 has won so many awards - why are android phone now the dominant phone in the market place.
iOS has stagnated and developed very slowly, is becoming less stable (My iPhone 4 with iOS 5 on it crashes regularly) and is now playing catch up to features that android has had for several years (notifications in iOS 5 - my god, too little too late).
But these are just my opinions that I have formed through much usage of these devices.
There is room for everything, and one must not be blinded by how good/bad things were in the past.
Come now Conrad as a developer you above all should know that your marketing stats fall flat on their arse when one considers that apple is a single company and there are many many android developers of which all these phones are 'lumped' together to give the impressive stats.
I am not an iphone owner and never have been.
> why would I want flash based tools
because you had shares in Adobe?
can't think of any other reason - it is quite awful and I'm glad to see it going out of fashion
one of the great millstones of web design
Thankfully Naim writes nice apps for the iPad .
... my iPad has never crashed, can I help it if I'm lucky?
PHP is pretty good in my humble opinion, of course
All the best, Guy
Free from Androids and Windoze, but can't escape the Daily Crucible I'm afraid
And bring back HyperCard