Acoustic Properties of different colour curtains.

TOBYJUG posted:

I have recently had good results from wearing Sushi socks whilst listening to my more Ambient material.

Are these curtains directional? 

nigelb posted:

I have heard on the grapevine you can now get Naim audio curtains with pictures of the type of fish that best matches your system i.e. mullet, flatfish or monkfish curtains.  Naim have called them 'synergy curtains' and they will be available in the summer, just not sure if that is this year or next! Something about some certification they need to get before launch?

Later they will launch a special Wool version of these called SuperLoominaSynergyCurtains. Can't wait.

 

Ooh, that’s interesting. I wonder if they will use halibut for the flatfish versions. 

AudioClueless posted:

Are these curtains directional? 

 

You can easily test this by standing on your hands. Dont forget to change left and right speaker cable connections on the back of your amp, otherwise the stereo image will be inversed.

In the upside down position, I’d be worried about the potential effect the Sushi Socks would have on the sound. I may have to knock my house down and rebuilt it in the opposite direction to test this properly. I always feel you need to have a controlled environment for listening tests.

Reflecting on it, maybe a good way of telling the effect of colour of curtains would be to have two quite different colours on the same rail, one each side but long enough to  across, then it would be a simple matter to start with one across and the other gathered, enabling rapid changeover them for A-B comparisons.

Better than that may be if the windows are on both sides of the music room, so the curtains each side of you. And you could have one colour one side and the other the other, then a quick swap, and see how much the stereo image shifts. But be aware of shifts nothing to do with acoustic properties:e.g. with red and blue curtans, some people may lean to the left or lean to the right.

OK you lot, enough is enough! You are all taking the mickey out of the concept of audiophile curtains, but has anyone actually tried to hear the effect of different coloured curtains.?

No, I thought not! I always let my ears decide and do not appreciate the sarcasm of those that have not made the effort to audition.

BTW, I am offering £5 to anyone who can correctly detect the colour of curtains used in controlled blind listening tests.

Irritated, of Chesham!

ChrisR_EPL posted:

After many years dedicated research into the subject I can confirm that red wine makes everything better. White is ok, but red = good.

But which grape produces the best sound ? Cabernet Sauvignon, Merlot, Pinotage......... ?

nigelb posted:

OK you lot, enough is enough! You are all taking the mickey out of the concept of audiophile curtains, but has anyone actually tried to hear the effect of different coloured curtains.?

No, I thought not! I always let my ears decide and do not appreciate the sarcasm of those that have not made the effort to audition.

BTW, I am offering £5 to anyone who can correctly detect the colour of curtains used in controlled blind listening tests.

Irritated, of Chesham!

Taking the mickey? Sarcasm? And I thought all the responses were genuine contributions, reflecting on the question and in some cases making suggestions for how to assess, albeit some a little more difficult to implement than others, and highlighting other areas of possible consideration for audiophiles, ones that in some cases may never have seen the light if it wasn’t for the OP’s thoughtfulness in starting the thread and Richard’s wisdom in letting it run...

TK421 posted:

After much deliberation I eventually pulled myself together and chose a pair in deepest darkest red.

I really am struggling to put into words the SQ improvements that I am now hearing, blimey. 

How long did they take to break in ? I've had new red curtains for a month now and I'm still hearing a bit of a sharp treble and flabby bass. I assume it will get better ?

Wugged Woy posted:

TK421 posted:

After much deliberation I eventually pulled myself together and chose a pair in deepest darkest red.

I really am struggling to put into words the SQ improvements that I am now hearing, blimey. 

How long did they take to break in ? I've had new red curtains for a month now and I'm still hearing a bit of a sharp treble and flabby bass. I assume it will get better ?

Nah. Looking at your system, you must have have the wrong colour curtains or they have been installed incorrectly. Audiophile curtains should sound good out of the box, although they will improve over longer term hanging. Check you have hung them correctly (direction, hanging free, not touching walls or each other etc) then talk to your dealer.

BTW audio paranoia associated with new audiophile curtains is quite normal.

nigelb posted:

Wugged Woy posted:

TK421 posted:

After much deliberation I eventually pulled myself together and chose a pair in deepest darkest red.

I really am struggling to put into words the SQ improvements that I am now hearing, blimey. 

How long did they take to break in ? I've had new red curtains for a month now and I'm still hearing a bit of a sharp treble and flabby bass. I assume it will get better ?

Nah. Looking at your system, you must have have the wrong colour curtains or they have been installed incorrectly. Audiophile curtains should sound good out of the box, although they will improve over longer term hanging. Check you have hung them correctly (direction, hanging free, not touching walls or each other etc) then talk to your dealer.

BTW audio paranoia associated with new audiophile curtains is quite normal.

Gee,  thanks for the advice. I'm pretty new to the world of audiophile curtains. I'll check them carefully right away !

Oh by the way, should I hang them using Naim connectors or can I use standard banana connectors in an 'F' conguration to include the lace curtains aswell ?

Never understood what Naimnet meant now it's clear, it's the type of semi see through curtains Naim recommend you have across your windows.

No SQ effects but will stop the neighbours seeing you headbanging or wildly conducting the orchestra along with the great Naim sound.

We replaced all of our curtains with blinds and changed the colour scheme. I am now really concerned that we have made a huge mistake and will have to start again. Perhaps we should have had a home demo? In the good old days it was one pair of speakers in a room; presumably one pair of curtains is the rule now, leaving other windows without? Help needed please.

BN

I have found tie-backs on curtains to be critical.

I am currently using Naim Hi-Lines as tie backs but looking to dem Naim SL and Chord Music .

With 5 pairs of curtains it could be expensive so should I just start with the curtains behind the speakers for best effect and then build up to a full loom?

Richard

FangfossFlyer posted:

I have found tie-backs on curtains to be critical.

I am currently using Naim Hi-Lines as tie backs but looking to dem Naim SL and Chord Music .

With 5 pairs of curtains it could be expensive so should I just start with the curtains behind the speakers for best effect and then build up to a full loom?

Richard

I heard that Naim are going to launch a Superlumina loom, to allow you to weave your own curtains.

A bit on topic: our TV is in a 8 sqm room, very small - and it has for over 50% curtains and a sofa. The sound is very much determined by the amp / loudspeakers and not the room.

Compared to my plastered living room having wooden floors, it is the absolute opposite.

Curtains are white and I like them. Heavy velour.

Wugged Woy posted:

nigelb posted:

Wugged Woy posted:

TK421 posted:

After much deliberation I eventually pulled myself together and chose a pair in deepest darkest red.

I really am struggling to put into words the SQ improvements that I am now hearing, blimey. 

How long did they take to break in ? I've had new red curtains for a month now and I'm still hearing a bit of a sharp treble and flabby bass. I assume it will get better ?

Nah. Looking at your system, you must have have the wrong colour curtains or they have been installed incorrectly. Audiophile curtains should sound good out of the box, although they will improve over longer term hanging. Check you have hung them correctly (direction, hanging free, not touching walls or each other etc) then talk to your dealer.

BTW audio paranoia associated with new audiophile curtains is quite normal.

Gee,  thanks for the advice. I'm pretty new to the world of audiophile curtains. I'll check them carefully right away !

Oh by the way, should I hang them using Naim connectors or can I use standard banana connectors in an 'F' conguration to include the lace curtains aswell ?

Now you are just being silly, Woy. Normal curtain hooks are fine. I have never gone for fancy hooks, just huge mark-ups and snake oil in my opinion.

An as for additional lace curtains, don't get me started on lace curtains.

nigelb posted:

Wugged Woy posted:

nigelb posted:

Wugged Woy posted:

TK421 posted:

After much deliberation I eventually pulled myself together and chose a pair in deepest darkest red.

I really am struggling to put into words the SQ improvements that I am now hearing, blimey. 

How long did they take to break in ? I've had new red curtains for a month now and I'm still hearing a bit of a sharp treble and flabby bass. I assume it will get better ?

Nah. Looking at your system, you must have have the wrong colour curtains or they have been installed incorrectly. Audiophile curtains should sound good out of the box, although they will improve over longer term hanging. Check you have hung them correctly (direction, hanging free, not touching walls or each other etc) then talk to your dealer.

BTW audio paranoia associated with new audiophile curtains is quite normal.

Gee,  thanks for the advice. I'm pretty new to the world of audiophile curtains. I'll check them carefully right away !

Oh by the way, should I hang them using Naim connectors or can I use standard banana connectors in an 'F' conguration to include the lace curtains aswell ?

Now you are just being silly, Woy. Normal curtain hooks are fine. I have never gone for fancy hooks, just huge mark-ups and snake oil in my opinion.

An as for additional lace curtains, don't get me started on lace curtains.

Yeh i'm probably over complicating things. But, one other thing - what's the minimum length of curtain ? I think Naim recommend 3.5 metres but i have 3m high ceiling so a lot of curtain will trail on the floor. Should i buy special risers to lift the curtains off the floor ? I hear it's better for sound......

Wugged Woy posted:

nigelb posted:

Wugged Woy posted:

nigelb posted:

Wugged Woy posted:

TK421 posted:

After much deliberation I eventually pulled myself together and chose a pair in deepest darkest red.

I really am struggling to put into words the SQ improvements that I am now hearing, blimey. 

How long did they take to break in ? I've had new red curtains for a month now and I'm still hearing a bit of a sharp treble and flabby bass. I assume it will get better ?

Nah. Looking at your system, you must have have the wrong colour curtains or they have been installed incorrectly. Audiophile curtains should sound good out of the box, although they will improve over longer term hanging. Check you have hung them correctly (direction, hanging free, not touching walls or each other etc) then talk to your dealer.

BTW audio paranoia associated with new audiophile curtains is quite normal.

Gee,  thanks for the advice. I'm pretty new to the world of audiophile curtains. I'll check them carefully right away !

Oh by the way, should I hang them using Naim connectors or can I use standard banana connectors in an 'F' conguration to include the lace curtains aswell ?

Now you are just being silly, Woy. Normal curtain hooks are fine. I have never gone for fancy hooks, just huge mark-ups and snake oil in my opinion.

An as for additional lace curtains, don't get me started on lace curtains.

Yeh i'm probably over complicating things. But, one other thing - what's the minimum length of curtain ? I think Naim recommend 3.5 metres but i have 3m high ceiling so a lot of curtain will trail on the floor. Should i buy special risers to lift the curtains off the floor ? I hear it's better for sound......

The posh SuperLoominaSynergyCurtains are £600 per meter pair and 3m is the minimum length, so you should OK in your room with no need for risers. What you need to decide now is what colour of curtain would give the best SQ with your room and system. Your dealer is your friend here, or maybe the OP has some advice. Haven't heard from the OP for a while. Bit suspicious that.

Woy, I am replying to your enquiries on the assumption you are being serious and are not taking the mickey out of us audiophiles. Please confirm.

I must admit, I do like the look of the Sushi socks! Although I can't help thinking there is something fishy about them!

Wugged Woy posted:

ChrisR_EPL posted:

After many years dedicated research into the subject I can confirm that red wine makes everything better. White is ok, but red = good.

But which grape produces the best sound ? Cabernet Sauvignon, Merlot, Pinotage......... ?

Malbec, Chilean or Argie obvs. Surprised you needed to ask tbh.

ChrisR_EPL posted:

Wugged Woy posted:

ChrisR_EPL posted:

After many years dedicated research into the subject I can confirm that red wine makes everything better. White is ok, but red = good.

But which grape produces the best sound ? Cabernet Sauvignon, Merlot, Pinotage......... ?

Malbec, Chilean or Argie obvs. Surprised you needed to ask tbh.

I find it isn't so much the grape, but use of the appropriate volume. I find between 250ml and 500ml is optimal, beyond that I detect a muddiness and lack of clarity.

Why, oh why have we been moved to the Padded Cell?

Disgusted, of Chesham!

Innocent Bystander posted:

***SNIP***

Of much greater import, however, will be the trousers, fabric and fit if not colour, and indeed whether you are wearing any - most significant to “trouser flapping bass”: even speakers with the very best bass may struggle if you are not wearing trousers, though they may cause other things to flap...

Note that prog music provides great synergy with environments where the trousers have flares and collars are wide.

I have noticed when replaying loud music the neighbours are often twitching their own curtains and giving me a bad look. I think they are trying to replicate the effect my own curtains are contributing. They must be upset that theirs are not as good as mine.