Acoustic Properties of different colour curtains.
Posted by: Sloop John B on 14 March 2018
..... is a topic that one doesn’t often see discussed here.
Whilst I appreciate it is difficult to do direct A / B comparisons and the need to dem in one’s own room is absolutely essential I’m quite surprised by the silence on the topic here.
We have gleaned that PB has grey curtains. These are not ones I have heard personally but one of the more astonishing revelations in this strange hobby was when I changed an insipid green pair of curtains for a rich burgundy set. Well jaw drop, night and day, old curtains sounded broken, black box upgrade - take your pick, the difference was astounding. And of course the beauty is that the effect is evident through many other upgrades. I’ve gone from 282/250 at the time to a 552/300 now and at each step of the ladder the curtains certainly held their own bringing previously unheard aspects of the sound to the fore.
Now I know not everyone thinks that curtain colour can make a difference and that any sepia shade will do and they question the science surrounding the subject but I cannot deny what my ears have heard, can’t unring the bell. I have been in touch with a local Draper and hope to have a curtain shoot- out in the not too distant future. He claims that there are some curtains from China that sound nearly as good as equivalent British ones at a fraction of the price. Once again, I’ll let my ears decide.
.sjb
Dearly beloved has become involved, she likes the look of those big eyelets, I worry that they might rattle and prefer tape, but how much gather do you suggest?
Then, lined or unlined? Blackout lining tends to be rubbery, will it deaden the sound, or is this constrained layer damping, saving the cost of a bass trap.
To further muddy the situation, dry clean only or domestic laundry. If the latter what detergent AND will the perfume of a fabric softener alter my perception?
nigelb posted:Why, oh why have we been moved to the Padded Cell?
Disgusted, of Chesham!
Maybe the curtains are so thick that they constitute padding.
Curtains are so Olive era... you all really need to look at moving up to blinds, preferably ones that open from top or bottom (and are blacked out on one side). Powered ones even better, but the choice of linear power supply for them can make a huge difference. And of course the power cable for that supply. And the outlet. Best to run them on a dedicated circuit.
That said, you do know there are people who can hear colors and see sound? So maybe you really are on to something here, as long as one has a rare genetic disorder (available soon at your local dealer).
Music Sounds great now its behind the iron curtain. Thank you Salisbury.
TOBYJUG posted:Music Sounds great now its behind the iron curtain. Thank you Salisbury.
I would have thought that the iron curtain would have a distinctly chilling effect...
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The term takes me back - and is chilling. I hope all in Salisbury are bearing up under the abnormal circumstances - and indeed that those in power keep their cool (pun definitely not intended)
nigelb posted:Wugged Woy posted:nigelb posted:Wugged Woy posted:nigelb posted:Wugged Woy posted:TK421 posted:After much deliberation I eventually pulled myself together and chose a pair in deepest darkest red.
I really am struggling to put into words the SQ improvements that I am now hearing, blimey.
How long did they take to break in ? I've had new red curtains for a month now and I'm still hearing a bit of a sharp treble and flabby bass. I assume it will get better ?
Nah. Looking at your system, you must have have the wrong colour curtains or they have been installed incorrectly. Audiophile curtains should sound good out of the box, although they will improve over longer term hanging. Check you have hung them correctly (direction, hanging free, not touching walls or each other etc) then talk to your dealer.
BTW audio paranoia associated with new audiophile curtains is quite normal.
Gee, thanks for the advice. I'm pretty new to the world of audiophile curtains. I'll check them carefully right away !
Oh by the way, should I hang them using Naim connectors or can I use standard banana connectors in an 'F' conguration to include the lace curtains aswell ?
Now you are just being silly, Woy. Normal curtain hooks are fine. I have never gone for fancy hooks, just huge mark-ups and snake oil in my opinion.
An as for additional lace curtains, don't get me started on lace curtains.
Yeh i'm probably over complicating things. But, one other thing - what's the minimum length of curtain ? I think Naim recommend 3.5 metres but i have 3m high ceiling so a lot of curtain will trail on the floor. Should i buy special risers to lift the curtains off the floor ? I hear it's better for sound......
The posh SuperLoominaSynergyCurtains are £600 per meter pair and 3m is the minimum length, so you should OK in your room with no need for risers. What you need to decide now is what colour of curtain would give the best SQ with your room and system. Your dealer is your friend here, or maybe the OP has some advice. Haven't heard from the OP for a while. Bit suspicious that.
Woy, I am replying to your enquiries on the assumption you are being serious and are not taking the mickey out of us audiophiles. Please confirm.
I must admit, I do like the look of the Sushi socks! Although I can't help thinking there is something fishy about them!
As if I would take the mickey. Not at all. This is a serious subject that I have been contemplating about for years.
Was also considering going active, with each curtain having it's own power supply. Or at least go bi-curtain. Do Naim manufacture a suitable cross-over I wonder ? A Scurto ?
Oh and don't mention the socks. It seems a bit kinky to me.
ChrisR_EPL posted:Wugged Woy posted:ChrisR_EPL posted:After many years dedicated research into the subject I can confirm that red wine makes everything better. White is ok, but red = good.
But which grape produces the best sound ? Cabernet Sauvignon, Merlot, Pinotage......... ?
Malbec, Chilean or Argie obvs. Surprised you needed to ask tbh.
I'm about as knowledgeable about wine as I am about curtain acoustics. But I am learning fast thanks to this great forum.........
charlesphoto posted:Curtains are so Olive era...
I'm an old-school curtain man myself - you just can't beat Olive curtains.
They can be dry cleaned and old damaged threads replaced long into the future, by Darran at Class A Textiles.
nigelb posted:Why, oh why have we been moved to the Padded Cell?
Disgusted, of Chesham!
Maybe someone complained.
Can't understand why. I think this thread is a bit of a yarn.............
TOBYJUG posted:Music Sounds great now its behind the iron curtain. Thank you Salisbury.
Wugged Woy posted:charlesphoto posted:Curtains are so Olive era...
I'm an old-school curtain man myself - you just can't beat Olive curtains.
They can be dry cleaned and old damaged threads replaced long into the future, by Darran at Class A Textiles.
Well, I run a CB NAP110 myself with a DAC V1 and Roon and microRendu as a source- a bit like having old wood storm shutters with modern accordion blinds in front, I guess.
Wugged Woy posted:nigelb posted:Why, oh why have we been moved to the Padded Cell?
Disgusted, of Chesham!
Maybe someone complained.
Can't understand why. I think this thread is a bit of a yarn.............
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
Let's see if another important thread can burn like wildfire in Hi-Fi Corner for a bit, maybe when Richard is on holiday!
Many on the forum may feel this subject to be i-material but i think you have to be cloth eared to not realise the SQ benefits of correctly coloured curtains. One day they will all cotton on. The evidence is a bit vague and woolly but if you weave through all the internet audio sites and ignore any warp views you will find the truth.
Wugged Woy posted:TK421 posted:After much deliberation I eventually pulled myself together and chose a pair in deepest darkest red.
I really am struggling to put into words the SQ improvements that I am now hearing, blimey.
How long did they take to break in ? I've had new red curtains for a month now and I'm still hearing a bit of a sharp treble and flabby bass. I assume it will get better ?
It will definitely get better, trust me.
I am hearing sweet treble and tight bass, you just need to persevere and resist all temptation to upgrade.
I don't wish to be drawn in to a break in debate, but would say it could take a few more months yet.
ATB,
Mike
Wugged Woy posted:Many on the forum may feel this subject to be i-material but i think you have to be cloth eared to not realise the SQ benefits of correctly coloured curtains. One day they will all cotton on. The evidence is a bit vague and woolly but if you weave through all the internet audio sites and ignore any warp views you will find the truth.
Yes, all the audio curtain doubters should pull themselves together.
I'll get me coat.
nigelb posted:Wugged Woy posted:Many on the forum may feel this subject to be i-material but i think you have to be cloth eared to not realise the SQ benefits of correctly coloured curtains. One day they will all cotton on. The evidence is a bit vague and woolly but if you weave through all the internet audio sites and ignore any warp views you will find the truth.
Yes, all the audio curtain doubters should pull themselves together.
I'll get me coat.
At least draw some conclusions.
G
Are we on fire, or what?
nigelb posted:Wugged Woy posted:Many on the forum may feel this subject to be i-material but i think you have to be cloth eared to not realise the SQ benefits of correctly coloured curtains. One day they will all cotton on. The evidence is a bit vague and woolly but if you weave through all the internet audio sites and ignore any warp views you will find the truth.
Yes, all the audio curtain doubters should pull themselves together.
I'll get me coat.
Yep, sling yer hook before I rail against these puns.
Eoink posted:nigelb posted:Wugged Woy posted:Many on the forum may feel this subject to be i-material but i think you have to be cloth eared to not realise the SQ benefits of correctly coloured curtains. One day they will all cotton on. The evidence is a bit vague and woolly but if you weave through all the internet audio sites and ignore any warp views you will find the truth.
Yes, all the audio curtain doubters should pull themselves together.
I'll get me coat.
Yep, sling yer hook before I rail against these puns.
Boom, boom!
Eoink posted:nigelb posted:Wugged Woy posted:Many on the forum may feel this subject to be i-material but i think you have to be cloth eared to not realise the SQ benefits of correctly coloured curtains. One day they will all cotton on. The evidence is a bit vague and woolly but if you weave through all the internet audio sites and ignore any warp views you will find the truth.
Yes, all the audio curtain doubters should pull themselves together.
I'll get me coat.
Yep, sling yer hook before I rail against these puns.
I think I need to gather my thoughts, eye the facts and produce some material evidence of the benefits of audio curtains.
(Sorry for the use of Italics but all the best puns have been used which has caused me to curtainl my response).
I always thought “curtains are curtains” and as long as they were certified and open and shut properly they couldn’t have their own sound. Boy was I wrong...
charlesphoto posted:I always thought “curtains are curtains” and as long as they were certified and open and shut properly they couldn’t have their own sound. Boy was I wrong...
In this world, you never stop learning something new .....
I hope all of you have the official test record at hand:
Otherwise you are no longer qualified to post in this thread
I’ve heard tale that if you put a green stripe with a permanent marker along a cd edge it will sound better. Think I might try this with the blinds before my wife gets home... pretty sure she’ll be happy with the increase in sound quality.
Only one way to follow that -
And so I face the final curtain
My friend, I'll say it clear
I'll state my case, of which I'm certain…