BBC 320K and Muso ?

Posted by: Guiri on 17 March 2018

I apologise if this has been posted already, I found lots of similar posts but none which specifically answer my question, which is:

(How) can I play 320k BBC radio streams via iRadio for Muso?

I can see and play 128k but can't find the 320k streams in iRadio.

Cheers...

Posted on: 17 March 2018 by David Hendon

You have to be in the top level of iradio, then select BBC radio, then select Radio 3 or whichever you want, then you can choose the HD stream. 

Note that the HD streams don't work outside the UK, so if you are outside the UK, it's more difficult and you would need to use a VPN or similar to disguise your location. 

Best

David

 

Posted on: 17 March 2018 by Guiri

Thanks David,

That clears things up completely - I am outside UK !

Cheers..

Posted on: 17 March 2018 by Mike-B

It's my understanding that BBC doesn't broadcast 320kb/s outside UK.   I've never got anything better than 128 when overseas.   Various tricks to get around it as David hints at,  maybe worth looking at a possibility via a NAS service.   

Posted on: 17 March 2018 by Guiri

Thanks Mike,

Not going to complicate things. The Muso is for a bit of background music, not serious listening so I'll take it as it comes. 320k radio paradise is great most of the time, would have enjoyed some radio 2 at 320k from time to time but not the end of the world...

Posted on: 18 March 2018 by robgr

Does one run the VPN on the device running the Naim app. How might using a VPN work?

Posted on: 18 March 2018 by Simon-in-Suffolk

The term VPN here means effectively a network tunnel. If you wish to use a VPN tunnel you would typically need your broadband router to be one end of the tunnel, and the other would typically be a VPN tunnel service provider in the country you wanted to tunnel to... such as the UK. Effectively from an internet perspective you appear as if you are located at your VPN tunnel service provider.

Complication and consideration is required if you wish to use a split tunnel... ie some internet traffic is tunnelled and other internet traffic not... but most consumer broadband routers I have seen that support VPN tunnelling allow only an all or nothing approach.

So if your broadband router supports VPNs, use google to find an internet  VPN service provider in the UK. However VPN tunnelling will often be less performant than a straight non tunnelled internet access.

Simon

 

 

Posted on: 19 March 2018 by robgr

I actually use NordVPN on my PC which doesn't support white-listing but they instead suggest configuring exceptions as static routes but I could never get this to work (maybe it works with other VPNs?)

My router (TP-Link Archer C2600) appears to support OpenVPN but it looks like you configure the router and then a client accordingly

So I'm still not clear how this might work with just a MuSo or otherwise and a router as it doesn't look like you can add a VPN to the MuSo

Am I perhaps missing something?

Posted on: 19 March 2018 by David Hendon

Basically the muso asks the router for the HD stream and the router passes the request over the VPN service which pops out the request in the UK, so that the Beeb server responds accordingly.

Exactly how you do this I don't know, but I'm sure there are those here who do. It doesn't involve doing anything to the muso (so is within AUP for the Forum I believe).

best

David

Posted on: 19 March 2018 by David O'Higgins

I often use VPN to access services which are geographically restricted, but I don’t understand how one could get a Muso (or an NDS) to access a 320k BBC stream by this method. I use an iPod connected to the UK to get a 320k Radio 3 stream, which is connected to the digital input of the NDS. 

Is there a better way?

By the way, I would be prepared to pay for such a service, if offered by the BBC.

 

Posted on: 20 March 2018 by David Hendon

I think the point is to get your router to appear to be in the UK because the IP of its WAN is changed by the VPN to be something in the U.K. Then everything in your network gets served via the VPN as if the request came from the UK. I can see all sorts of issues with this, because your whole internet experience will depend on the VPN performance. And you probably need the right router and a good understanding of how to set it up for this to work. But as I said, I don't have personal knowledge.

best

David

Posted on: 20 March 2018 by David O'Higgins
David Hendon posted:

I think the point is to get your router to appear to be in the UK because the IP of its WAN is changed by the VPN to be something in the U.K. Then everything in your network gets served via the VPN as if the request came from the UK. I can see all sorts of issues with this, because your whole internet experience will depend on the VPN performance. And you probably need the right router and a good understanding of how to set it up for this to work. But as I said, I don't have personal knowledge.

best

David

I can also see all kinds of domestic issues rearing their heads (specifically Wife and Son!). We do share these networks.

David