Naim price increases April 30th

We had a price increase in January in the UK. Does the April increase apply here, I wonder?

Japtimscarlet posted:

Well chord are producing some quality items with bespoke software for (I.M.O) less than naim would be charging if they had developed the item...

And why haven't naim developed them??

Where is the class leading sound?

I would happy go back to bolt together cases if the electronics inside were truly world class..

So presumably you’ll be selling your 272 based system and purchasing Chord?

KRM posted:

We had a price increase in January in the UK. Does the April increase apply here, I wonder?

If least year is anything to go by, we'll get both 

Is the group that Naim are part of ... on the stock market??? 

Fake News :  From our well informed sources, all Naim prices will increase except for the NAT-05 XS...

Will the new streamers get a price increase before they're even released?

Thats a great comment!!!! ha ha ........ well done that man...............

ChrisSU posted:

KRM posted:

We had a price increase in January in the UK. Does the April increase apply here, I wonder?

If least year is anything to go by, we'll get both 

Yes, but last year we had the post-Brexit increase. That was a result, in large part, of the weakened £ which should now have worked through the system.  I assumed they had moved the date to January. 

sjbabbey posted:

Will the new streamers get a price increase before they're even released?

The new Unitis did if I remember correctly.

  get ready more of naim range will go over to the east.

Alba1320 posted:

KRM posted:

ChrisSU posted:

KRM posted:

We had a price increase in January in the UK. Does the April increase apply here, I wonder?

If least year is anything to go by, we'll get both 

Yes, but last year we had the post-Brexit increase. That was a result, in large part, of the weakened £ which should now have worked through the system.  I assumed they had moved the date to January. 

Yes, AFAIK, the 'traditional' April 1st price rise was moved to January 1st; whether that rules out yet another rise, however...

Perhaps something official from Naim might clarify the situation?

AFAIK, pricing outside of the UK (the USA in this instance) is not down to Naim but rather the distributor. 

As for Naim's UK business (in the UK Naim manage their own distribution), I'd imagine that like any other distributor  they reserve the right to alter their recommended retail pricing as and when there's a need to do so.  They do generally try to give their dealers a bit of prior warning though...

Hungryhalibut posted:

If Naim is that ropey, why do you own it? Why not have Chord instead, if they are so great?

I owned it before they became ropey. ( I have no idea what ropey means, but  assuming it can't be good). 

Not painting naim as a villain here - just that they need to get their costs under control. I want my next piece to be naim and not chord, but at current rate...

I'd certainly audition the chord Dave before and the nd555. If the prices were competitive, I would have had an order in for the nd555 already.

For tech that's going to be obsolete before I bring it him, no way those prices make sense.

Totally agree

Having said that, it's the US distributor, not naim that controls US prices - they compound the mess.

Theres no need to recommend Naim to friends mango

in all my gear I love most the Chord Mojo. It’s a little box of magic that does what it does with any amplifier. 

 superb r&d from chord engineering created the mojo and it’s all I need to enjoy my music seriously 

On the other hand, here in the UK the all new ND5XS2 appears to be cheaper than the model it is replacing or am I missing something here? (apart from a display screen of course).

Stephen Tate posted:

On the other hand, here in the UK the all new ND5XS2 appears to be cheaper than the model it is replacing or am I missing something here? (apart from a display screen of course).

Correct, no screen, and no external PSU option. 

ChrisSU posted:

Stephen Tate posted:

On the other hand, here in the UK the all new ND5XS2 appears to be cheaper than the model it is replacing or am I missing something here? (apart from a display screen of course).

Correct, no screen, and no external PSU option. 

Great! 

Thanks Chris.

Richieroo posted:

Is the group that Naim are part of ... on the stock market??? 

Owners investor group focus on profit as highest priority

I assume Naim factory has been through an efficiency and better organization structure

Not unusual for other investor owned companies and branches

Increasing prices is just one way of milking the cow, the company will be sold later on. 

Simon-in-Suffolk posted:

 If Naim ends up becoming for the most part a status symbol for high wealth individuals...

You mean... those who drive Bentleys and own Princess yachts?

I too have owned naim for a few years ( 1984 infact )

I'm perfectly entitled to say on an open forum..that I think prices are getting too steep .. quality and software is in question ...and I find it all a bit sad

 Tell me to bugger off and buy chord all you like...but the problem with naim still exists

Yes, I feel this is a worrying trend in terms of the seemingly relentless price hikes and what lies behind the current/future business model. I have been the very proud owner of Naim equipment for over 35 years and have been happy to accept the usual year-on-year price rises. However, and for example, the purported price of ~£5,000 for the NDX2 has for me priced it out of the market (irrespective of how good it MAY be). I was contemplating the streamer at ~£4,000 as commentators seemed to be saying it may be launched at, but not at £5,000. So, I may consider the ND5XS2, or indeed another make entirely. So in my own case Naim will lose a possible £4,000 streamer sale but MAY gain a lower priced sale, if at all. I'm sure there are others for which the current pricing policy is simply a bridge too far, and feel they can't or won't be simply sucked into upgrading at any cost! Allegiance can sometimes only go so far.

Everything goes up but it seems to be a lot with Naim. I fit central heating boilers and most of the manufacturers have raised prices from the beginning of this month typically by 4%. At least there’s an element of competition with them whereas Naim seem to think they can have it all their own way. Let hope they don’t push their luck too much further. 

I'm sure you'll be glad when prices drop the moment Naim becomes another "designed in the UK, made in China" company...

Putting aside the prices for the new ND streamers, has anyone actually seen a full UK Naim RRP price list with all the April increases yet or is this all speculation based on what a US dealer has said to someone on here?