Something new

Posted by: Bert Schurink on 12 April 2018

trying for a post which enables us to publish new developments in hifi. Here the first example

 

 

High Definition Vinyl” Is Happening, Possibly as Early as Next Year

With a new $4.8 million investment, an Austrian startup says it could have “HD vinyl” in stores by 2019
Vinyl record spins on a turntable, photo by Matt Cardy/Getty Images
Vinyl record spins on a turntable, photo by Matt Cardy/Getty Images
“High Definition Vinyl” has moved closer to a turntable near you. In 2016, a European patent filing described a way of manufacturing records that the inventors claimed would have higher audio fidelity, louder volume, and longer playing times than conventional LPs. Now, the Austrian-based startup Rebeat Innovation has received $4.8 million in funding for the initiative, founder and CEO Günter Loibl told Pitchfork. Thanks to the investment, the first “HD vinyl” albums could hit stores as early as 2019, Loibl said.

The HD vinyl process involves converting audio digitally to a 3D topographic map. Lasers are then used to inscribe the map onto the “stamper,” the part that stamps the grooves into the vinyl. According to Loibl, these methods allow for records to be made more precisely and with less loss of audio information. The results, he said, are vinyl LPs that can have up to 30 percent more playing time, 30 percent more amplitude, and overall more faithful sound reproduction. The technique would also avoid the chemicals that play a role in traditional vinyl manufacturing. Plus, the new-school HD vinyl LPs would still play on ordinary record players.

What’s next? Rebeat Innovation has ordered a big laser system, for about $600,000, with hopes that it will be shipped by July, Loibl said. Once that system is up and running, Loibl said he plans to produce test stampers for five to-be-determined “early mover” pressing plants. In September, the first test stampers would arrive at those plants. “Our goal is to officially present our test stampers at the Making Vinyl conference in October,” Loibl said, referring to the vinyl trade event held in Detroit. “It will take another eight months to do all the fine adjustments. So by summer 2019 we shall see the first HD vinyls in the stores.”

Posted on: 12 April 2018 by joerand

I have two simple questions; what's the cost of an album and which titles will be available? If the cost is double the typical $20 LP I have little interest. If it's restricted to new music, little interest. If they take a classic like Paul Simon's Graceland and set it to HD vinyl for $25-30, I'd give it a try. In any event, I've yet to find newer vinyl that can replace original pressings from the late-1960s to mid-1980s for SQ.

Bottom line is I'll remain skeptical, especially given an investment of just $5M. Plus I don't see a great need for longer playing albums. Maybe for classical music.

Posted on: 12 April 2018 by Japtimscarlet

Could not have put it better myself!

Posted on: 12 April 2018 by FangfossFlyer

This bit made be question whether this a good move:

“The HD vinyl process involves converting audio digitally to a 3D topographic map. Lasers are then used to inscribe the map onto the “stamper,”

????

but I am open to have a listen one day.

Richard

 

Posted on: 12 April 2018 by Emre

it sounds like a big cd player that works with big black CDs....? remember the video discs? 

Posted on: 12 April 2018 by joerand

The patent holder claims HD vinyl is intended to play on existing TTs and carts, so it's not a new format, just a different way of producing LPs. It is of course digital transcribed to vinyl.

Posted on: 12 April 2018 by GregWPGibbs

When I read this, it reminded me of another devolpment in vinyl replay announced by my local dealer, Signals, on 1st April ????

Posted on: 12 April 2018 by Chag...

I just hope we can rip them onto bigger sticks then. ????

Chag -

Posted on: 12 April 2018 by joerand

It reminds me a lot of a vinyl equivalent of MQA, except that no additional compatibility is required to play HD vinyl.

Posted on: 13 April 2018 by Huge

30% improvement in play time or 30% improvement in amplitude, that all of a full 1dB improvement; wow, that's...

underwhelming.

Posted on: 13 April 2018 by Innocent Bystander

Wondering about the date, I checked, to find the patent was dated 1st Feb, not 1st April...

As it starts in digital format, I’ve got a novel idea: cut out the rest of thevprocess and distribute the digital files, for people to play back using a special device called a digital to analog converter straight into an amp...

Posted on: 13 April 2018 by Huge

Nah, it'll never catch on.

That's too simple, you need all the pomp and ceremony to show that playing recorded music is worthwhile.
You also need all that euphonic distortion caused by the cartridge and dragging a rock over a piece of plastic.

Posted on: 14 April 2018 by fordy

It just reads like a more accurate and repeatable way of creating the vinyl stamper using a pre-mapped laser rather than a cutting head.

Posted on: 15 April 2018 by Clive B

Oh super! Will this be an opportunity to buy yet another copy of my favourite albums at inflated price, only to realise that they're seldom any better than the original?

Posted on: 15 April 2018 by J.N.

Bang on, Clive. Nicely/properly mastered albums from the 80's and 90's ('Graceland' is a fine example) WILL sound inferior on this new format because they will be digitally screwed with, to negative effect.

More marketing fluff. I won't be biting.

John.