Is this forum becoming tired?

Joerand: mention of former members in passing is usually fine - it's a judgement call.  A more involved discussion of former members is not, as they are not here to respond.

Bob, where I have to moderate a post, I usually comment at the bottom as to what and why I have edited. If I have to remove a post entirely then it's usually quite obvious to the poster (e.g. they have posted something entirely offensive, or offering something for sale) and if I feel the need to do so, I post that I have pruned a thread accordingly. Beyond that, any further action taken is between moderators and the member in question.

Bob the Builder posted:

I'm really pleased that so many of us are protective of and find so much to be positive about on this forum I for one could learn something about being more positive from this thread and about the good things this forum has to offer, so thank you for that.

That's what gownups (should) do. Diversity is under permanent pressure and its more than worth to fight for. Not only on this forum but on this whole planet.

Change has always come from minds who don't think alike.

Hungryhalibut posted:

I’m being deliberately really boring these days

To your credit I must say I hadn't noticed any difference.

Excellent! It must come naturally then. 

joerand posted:

Hungryhalibut posted:

I’m being deliberately really boring these days

To your credit I must say I hadn't noticed any difference.

 

Hungryhalibut posted:

Excellent! It must come naturally then. 

it can mean also that the person was already boring....

French Rooster posted:

joerand posted:

Hungryhalibut posted:

I’m being deliberately really boring these days

To your credit I must say I hadn't noticed any difference.

 

Hungryhalibut posted:

Excellent! It must come naturally then. 

it can mean also that the person was already boring....

Or that Joe is not really having sensitive qualities ... :-)

And we risk the wrath of HH by leaving the quotes there.

French Rooster posted:

joerand posted:

Hungryhalibut posted:

I’m being deliberately really boring these days

To your credit I must say I hadn't noticed any difference.

 

Hungryhalibut posted:

Excellent! It must come naturally then. 

it can mean also that the person was already boring....

HH boring ??? you must be joking !!

Just type "golden pension" or "public authority pension" into the "search" function, with either HH's name or my name and you'll soon discover the real HH........... boring ?     don't make me laugh !

And a little while ago, I was sat next to HH (along with a couple of others) listening to a demonstration of Naim equipment (it doesn't matter what), but the starting point was a system that wouldn't give change out of £50k (and it then moved upwards). Now my impression (I didn't speak) of the start-off system was....... "nice !" (and the final system was "bloody incredulous"). HH, (who as I said was sat next me) made a clear, forceful rhetorical question in response to hearing the start-off system, along the lines of"God, that's dreadful ! is it supposed to sound like that !!"

Does this align with a man who isboring ?

No way !

French Rooster posted:

joerand posted:

Hungryhalibut posted:

I’m being deliberately really boring these days

To your credit I must say I hadn't noticed any difference.

 

Hungryhalibut posted:

Excellent! It must come naturally then. 

it can mean also that the person was already boring....

Durr, that’s what I meant. It doesn’t need pointing out, surely. 

Don - your post resonates around my visit to a very respected dealer many years ago (now closed AFAIK) who had various Naim systems set-up in different rooms. When I heard the entry level system I was shocked - it sounded thin, sans bass (think MW radio in quality) compared to the, at the time, newer 552/500 set-up. I didn't recollect my (humble!) CD3.5/Flatcap/72/140 sounding that way...or did it?!

Back on point, the Forum is what you make of it and, I, like I suspect many others, read far more than I post. If I don't like a thread/it doesn't interest me I don't bother with it. End of.  

This place is a paragon of virtue compared to some, and long may it remain so. From my vista, much credit must go to Richard, as it's not a job I would want - especially when some of the fruitier exchanges span so many pages and have to be 'called to order'. 

p.s. having met HH several years ago, you omitted to mention he likes the Smiths...I think that's a definite case of YMMV 

I have seen this post passing by now a couple of times. And it always follows the same patterns. But let me reflect on it as well besides the starting remarks that we are in general a group of nerdy introvert type of people, so things can become a bit tiring and boring at times unless we get challenged on our core beliefs. Serious reflection though:

1. It’s a great source of finding new music, or getting pulled into new direction. Yeah I would love to see back those longer post of people who really have a hand of properly describing a classical album, this happens too less. But at the same time I am like many others also often too lazy to describe my own listening experiences. So it’s just a desire when fulfilled great, when not still ok as I am triggered to look at new music.

2. A great source of information when you are new to the Naim world and want an opinion about the next steps in your journey or just need advise how to make things work or even working better. In the beginning I was really fond of these posts.

3. A great source of opinion when new things come out. And sharing of opinions about listening experiences and differences between the  products on offer. I am very much liking the current discussions about the new streamers and look very much forward to the listening experiences when people get hold of the devices, including sharing my own expererience.

4. A great source of compassion when desired and wanted. I have seen quite often how people react in a warm manner when forum members are challenged in live.

5. It’s also a forum which has a certain openness to other products which are sometimes competing with Naim products. While sometimes the Hugo community is quite dominant.

6. It’s a great source for typical audiophile humor. And insiders jokes. Devices sounding broken, etc...

Of course also some things could improve:

7. People could also contribute a bit more. And not only consume what others produce. Every bodies opinion is useful and helps to get a broad picture. Specifically show experiences, musical experiences etc could be shared more.

8. More discussion would help. Very often the key opinions are only represented by a few individuals. It would help if all are stronger opiniated and don’t follow. It would give a richer view of things.

9. I would appreciate if more people share and discuss about musical experiences. As the forum is one of the important sources for exposure to new music, it can never be enough.

Happy Listener posted:

Don - your post resonates around my visit to a very respected dealer many years ago (now closed AFAIK) who had various Naim systems set-up in different rooms. When I heard the entry level system I was shocked - it sounded thin, sans bass (think MW radio in quality) compared to the, at the time, newer 552/500 set-up. I didn't recollect my (humble!) CD3.5/Flatcap/72/140 sounding that way...or did it?!

Back on point, the Forum is what you make of it and, I, like I suspect many others, read far more than I post. If I don't like a thread/it doesn't interest me I don't bother with it. End of.  

This place is a paragon of virtue compared to some, and long may it remain so. From my vista, much credit must go to Richard, as it's not a job I would want - especially when some of the fruitier exchanges span so many pages and have to be 'called to order'. 

p.s. having met HH several years ago, you omitted to mention he likes the Smiths...I think that's a definite case of YMMV 

ah yes ! HH mentioned the Smiths.............as you (politely) say, YMMV

Not only boring, but predictable as well. 

The affair of the removed thread was a little disturbing for me, I admit it. But then I had an open and extremely honest and clarifying exchange of emails with a moderator, and decided that I had recently had more personal issues with one forum member outside the forum rather than here; that there were at least two or three members that I would have considered unforgivable to displease or disappoint leaving; and that something is always learned, anywhere, especially in circumstances you'd instinctively refuse or avoid.

Having noticed that those few members I really like were staying without taking it too much seriously, and living happily with what the forum has to offer and, most of all, were here with clear name and face, I decided to do the same. So here I am, with my name and face – and nationality, even though I think that the few interaction-related dramas not generated by religion or soccer are usually due to national stereotypes, which I hate.

It took me eleven years to reach the status where no more every other answer to a post of mine contains references to pasta, so why should I go now?

Best to all,

M.

Massimo Bertola posted:

The affair of the removed thread was a little disturbing for me, I admit it. But then I had an open and extremely honest and clarifying exchange of emails with a moderator, and decided that I had recently had more personal issues with one forum member outside the forum rather than here; that there were at least two or three members that I would have considered unforgivable to displease or disappoint leaving; and that something is always learned, anywhere, especially in circumstances you'd instinctively refuse or avoid.

Having noticed that those few members I really like were staying without taking it too much seriously, and living happily with what the forum has to offer and, most of all, were here with clear name and face, I decided to do the same. So here I am, with my name and face – and nationality, even though I think that the few interaction-related dramas not generated by religion or soccer are usually due to national stereotypes, which I hate.

It took me eleven years to reach the status where no more every other answer to a post of mine contains references to pasta, so why should I go now?

Best to all,

M.

 

 

...and I for one am glad you decided to stay, Massimo.  One of characteristics of the forum I particularly like is the richness of nationalities that contribute.  

Mike

Thanks. The pic was taken one year ago. I swear I have not changed much..

M.

Massimo Bertola posted:

The affair of the removed thread was a little disturbing for me, I admit it. But then I had an open and extremely honest and clarifying exchange of emails with a moderator, and decided that I had recently had more personal issues with one forum member outside the forum rather than here; that there were at least two or three members that I would have considered unforgivable to displease or disappoint leaving; and that something is always learned, anywhere, especially in circumstances you'd instinctively refuse or avoid.

Having noticed that those few members I really like were staying without taking it too much seriously, and living happily with what the forum has to offer and, most of all, were here with clear name and face, I decided to do the same. So here I am, with my name and face – and nationality, even though I think that the few interaction-related dramas not generated by religion or soccer are usually due to national stereotypes, which I hate.

It took me eleven years to reach the status where no more every other answer to a post of mine contains references to pasta, so why should I go now?

Best to all,

M.

I'm currently serving my 17th year here on the forum. I fear it is for life: shackled here for a punishment I do not deserve. Here amongst great minds. I feel privileged to be in good company.

Hungryhalibut posted:

French Rooster posted:

joerand posted:

Hungryhalibut posted:

I’m being deliberately really boring these days

To your credit I must say I hadn't noticed any difference.

 

Hungryhalibut posted:

Excellent! It must come naturally then. 

it can mean also that the person was already boring....

Durr, that’s what I meant. It doesn’t need pointing out, surely. 

oh my God, you became boring now....

Better boring than dim.

if only this forum could be in french.....it would be more interesting for me.  I must accommodate with that.....

I take it all back it really is becoming tired.  Einstein,  Hawking,  Orwell, J. S Bach and Miles Davis had great minds men who populate a forum concerned with the minute details of a singular brand of hifi can hardly be described as having great minds though can they?                                                                                                                                                                                     

[@mention:56335183628232089] - just view it in Chrome, it'll translate it for you.....

oh, sorry, French.  Ok, here goes.

CHROME. YOU SHOULD VIEW IT IN CHROME. IT WILL TRANSLATE - ER, MAKE IT SIMPLE, UNDERSTANDABLE - FOR YOU. C-H-R-O-M-E.

Hungryhalibut posted:

Better boring than dim.

Classy.

Bob the Builder posted:

I take it all back it really is becoming tired.  Einstein,  Hawking,  Orwell, J. S Bach and Miles Davis had great minds men who populate a forum concerned with the minute details of a singular brand of hifi can hardly be described as having great minds though can they?                                                                                                                                                                                     

I'm rather dim compared to some members here. It's all relative. I suppose most of us Remainers are rather dim for your standards?

I think you’ll find there’s enough room for us all. Now who said that?

Hungryhalibut posted:

Better boring than dim.

It’s not dim... it’s mood lighting!