LP12 Lingo 4

Posted by: T38.45 on 22 May 2018

....outstanding VFM...almost reaching Radikal level for less cost. I noticed within seconds: Soundstage great, single instruments much clearer, no muddy bass, more depth. Big recommendation!

 

Posted on: 22 May 2018 by Robert1

I totally agree ! It was a huge improvement over the Armageddon.

Posted on: 22 May 2018 by Japtimscarlet
T38.45 posted:

....outstanding VFM...almost reaching Radikal level for less cost. I noticed within seconds: Soundstage great, single instruments much clearer, no muddy bass, more depth. Big recommendation!

 

Errrr think you want the linn forum?

Posted on: 22 May 2018 by stuart.ashen

Not really, lots of Linnies here to enjoy a bit of new product hyperbole !

Stu

Posted on: 22 May 2018 by Japtimscarlet

And I'm a LP 12 owner with aro 

But I wouldn't go shouting about how great the new power supply / motor combo was on this site ...even if I had bought one ( no chance!!)

Posted on: 22 May 2018 by Christopher_M

Thank you T38.45 for telling me about this, and conveying your enthusiasm and pleasure.

C.

Posted on: 22 May 2018 by Nick Lees
Japtimscarlet posted:

And I'm a LP 12 owner with aro 

But I wouldn't go shouting about how great the new power supply / motor combo was on this site ...even if I had bought one ( no chance!!)

It’s a Hi-Fi Forum. Just happens to be run by Naim. Anything (that doesn’t stuff your warranty etc.) goes. Even Linn.

Posted on: 22 May 2018 by KRM

Agreed. My new Lingo 4 blows away my poor old Armageddon.

Keith

Posted on: 22 May 2018 by cyclo

I would be interested to know how it compares to my Lingo 3. I am considering an upgrade at the moment but it is more likely to be the Linto moving out of the way for a Superline initially powered from the 282. Not trying to hijack this wonderful thread but would also be interested if this is a move others have experience of.

Regards

Mike

 

Posted on: 22 May 2018 by Alley Cat
cyclo posted:

I would be interested to know how it compares to my Lingo 3. I am considering an upgrade at the moment but it is more likely to be the Linto moving out of the way for a Superline initially powered from the 282. Not trying to hijack this wonderful thread but would also be interested if this is a move others have experience of.

Regards

Mike

 

What's the cost, and what would I do with my Lingo 1st gen?

Looking back I had many upgrades on my LP12 in the 90's and I have to wonder what happened to the upgraded spare parts - did Linn claim them back as part of the upgrade price or was my Linn dealer nabbing them and offering no rebate or old parts offer?

Posted on: 22 May 2018 by Ravenswood10

Sell it on eBay like I did with my Lingo 1 - I got almost 500 quid for it...

Posted on: 22 May 2018 by notnaim man

I made the jump, Hercules to Lingo 3 at Cymbiosis, just weeks before the 4 was announced. Due to some good fortune I was then in a position to make that next move. I had some not good dealer experiences before I decided to book in with Peter Swain. Just spending an afternoon with him, and the improvement his attention gave made me trust his judgement that the 4 was a worthwhile move. He was more than fair in taking the 3 back, I have no regrets. He was open about the part exchange prices he was offering.

Dearly beloved immediately mentioned clarity, timing, openness... all the usual review phrases apply.

There has been just one moment of doubt, just one album, Bryan Ferry, Another Time Another Place - he no longer sounds like Bryan Ferry, no chest voice, the vocals are thin and reedy. Otherwise, if you can afford it, go for it.

Posted on: 23 May 2018 by living in lancs yearning for yorks

Well I  for one am pleased to hear of th benefits of the 4 - may get round to upgrading my lp12 next (having spent money everywhere else for the last 8 years)

Posted on: 23 May 2018 by KRM

I'm still getting over the thrill getting 45rpm back and having a switch on the deck rather than groping for the Armageddon power switch.

Keith

Posted on: 24 May 2018 by kevin J Carden
cyclo posted:

I would be interested to know how it compares to my Lingo 3. I am considering an upgrade at the moment but it is more likely to be the Linto moving out of the way for a Superline initially powered from the 282. Not trying to hijack this wonderful thread but would also be interested if this is a move others have experience of.

Regards

Mike

 

I had that demo of Lingo3 vs Lingo4 on otherwise identical LP12’s yesterday Cyclo. Very obvious and large step up as described by OP in post 1 of this thread.

Apropos your Linto, interestingly, Peter the dealer I believe would strongly recommend the better ps (or indeed, a number of other possible upgrade options) before changing the phono stage. Yesterday, we listened throughout with just a Stageline powered from the preamp and If my budget had been considerably higher, even multiples higher, Peter would still say there would be many more effective ways to spend any extra cash for the build on bettering the power supply (Radikal) or sub-chassis (Kore) etc. before thinking about line stage. Nothing I heard yesterday during his fascinating demo would contradict that phono stage advice. 

Posted on: 24 May 2018 by Christopher_M

^^ 'like' especially for Stageline endorsement.

Posted on: 24 May 2018 by kevin J Carden

Re Lingo 4; Suffice to say that although its cost will be almost 30% of my LP12 build total cost, I didn’t want to be without it, so I have spec’d it. 

Posted on: 24 June 2018 by kevin J Carden

If anyone has had direct experience of Lingo 4 vs Radikal (Akurate) I’d be very interested to hear your thoughts and observations on the degree and the nature of the differences. 

Posted on: 25 June 2018 by Christopher_M
kevin J Carden posted:

If anyone has had direct experience of Lingo 4 vs Radikal (Akurate) I’d be very interested to hear your thoughts and observations on the degree and the nature of the differences. 

I'll happily take your Lingo 4 off you for ten bob, if you're now fancying a Radikal instead.

Posted on: 26 June 2018 by T38.45

still do not understand why vinyl sounds better than digital (even highres can't transport such emotions...and my digital front-end is not that bad me think....)