Uniti Core question please

I think what I'm basically asking is 

Do you have to use UPnP to get a volume control in the app ...and when on BNC connector's...no volume?

And just noticed ...not able to move the slider forward to jump ahead in the track on core BNC either !!!

I believe that’s right. By the way, Naim recommends using the Core via UPnP Ethernet connection to the 272 for best sound quality (and convenience.) My ears agree!

Robert Burgess posted:

I believe that’s right. By the way, Naim recommends using the Core via UPnP Ethernet connection to the 272 for best sound quality (and convenience.) My ears agree!

That's bad news when I've just spent a fortune on a chord BNC interconnect ....

Try both ways and see which you prefer - if via UPnP perhaps your dealer would allow a return, or you could sell-on the bnc cable. That’s what I did. In the end, it’s your preference that matters!

But if I loose all the " usability" by going BNC ..whats the point if it sounds slightly better ?

I would have thought they would have designed it so it functions the same on both inputs...

I think the volume slider bar in the app is only available in UPNP because you are essentially using the volume dial of the 272.The Core does not have a volume dial on it,so there is no dial,or slider in the APP when controlling the Core directly.I am still waiting for my DC1 to arrive,and hopefully I will hear an improvement over UPNP when it does.The nice thing about the Core though,using BNC,is you can feed an external DAC with it,I did it with a Chord Dave for a couple of week demo.This is a very noticeable upgrade for files stored on the Core,but expensive.

So the way the Core works, you have two ways to connect it to your 272.

The main way, and the most convenient, is to use it as a network upnp server whereby it will serve to all your streamers over the network. In this mode you select your 272 in the app and then select upnp. You control what music is played, the stop/start of it and the volume from there in the app.

Another way is to use the Core as a hard disc player and connect it with a digital interconnect to a digital input on the 272. You obviously have to select that digital input in the 272 part of the app and you can control the volume from there too. As No Quarter says, the volume control is in the 272 and not the Core and so you must use the 272 part of the app for that. But you use the Core part of the app to select the music to be played and the stop/start etc control. So if you choose this way of connecting your 272 and Core, the controls are inevitably spread between two parts of the app and you have to change to the right one to control the relevant feature. You can still control the volume from the 272 part of the app.

There has been a lot of discussion over whether the Core sounds better as a hard disc player or a upnp server. Opinions are divided both ways and some people strongly prefer one over the other. But I don't think there is any consensus that one way is better than the other. So it's for you to decide which to use and the control consequences should be part of what makes you decide to go with one or the other.

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David

David thats great

And it does work that way for me..I was just disappointed that I had to mess around changing back and forward in the app

In my case the 272 is on WiFi

The core is on intranet over mains 

So I was hoping that the core when linked via BNC would cut out all that " over mains" crap and be much better for it

I'm happy to let the core look up Meta data over mains when I rip CDs ????

Yes I see why a direct digital connection would be attractive and if you can hear an improvement (which seems likely!) then putting up with the inconvenience of controlling the 272 volume either with the app or by the remote is the way to go.

To allow you to control the volume from the Core part of the app would require the app to be connected to two devices simultaneously and that isn't the way the app works, so it would be a major change for Naim to implement, especially as it would need to work with whatever streamer you had connected the Core to directly, so would imply some way of telling the app which streamer was directly connected in a multi-streamer system.

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David

I have to say ...even with the moaning I have just done about the core / app ....it really is quite user friendly and a pleasure to edit meta data and tracks etc

I thought EAC that I was using on my PC was easy enough ..and that was ripping in FLAC ...but this is easier and more pleasant ..to listen to tracks while editing others...nice????

Ps .    You CAN jump forward on tracks that you have ripped ...just not on imported tracks ...and also you cannot edit metadata on imported tracks either.

The no editing of imported tracks, unless they are imported rips from a Naim server, is a well known restriction that Naim defends as acceptable as in almost all cases the import will have been from a PC/Mac and you can sort out the metadata before importing it into the Core.

What you may not yet have discovered is that you can edit tracks in the downloads folder of the Core using a PC/Mac. You don't have to move them out first or edit on a PC and copy back. You can do what you like with the Core downloads folder as if it were a folder on your PC. The Core and the app will pick up the edits quite quickly. I have the downloads folder mapped in windows to make this sort of thing easy.

For example I downloaded an album in high res a few days ago and forgot to rename the cover art from the "name of the disc".jpg to folder.jpg which Naim requires. So I just used my PC to rename the file in the downloads folder of the Core and it took about one minute for the artwork to show up in the app.

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David

That's interesting info (again!) David

Do you also know if it's possible to put an image in for the artist if it's missing ( not that album art ) ?

One or two of mine are wrong / missing

Yes it totally is. You just have to put whatever image you want as a file called folder.jpg in the same folder as the music files of the album. As I said it takes only a minute or so for the Core to find it.

Ah not sure I understood the question. I don't know about artist art. But I think maybe not if it's a download.

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David

No..there mostly rips that have either a missing or poor artist picture 

I will have a play and let you all know how I get on