Superline with supercap

Posted by: Neil H on 27 May 2018

Hi Folks......

Im looking for some  advice and logical explanation regarding an upgrade I would like to do.

Im currently running my Superline from the 252 I have in my system, I m looking to purchase a Supercap next week to power the Superline, my question is, is this upgrade worth the expense? Am I likely hear a noticeable difference with this upgrade.

The reason for asking this is I have a CD5X CD player powered by a flatcap and I have to say the music it produces seams to shake the bottom of your trousers whilst listening. When playing vinyl it just doesn't replicate the same sound however I have made a fair few mods to the vinyl side lately and maybe its just the fact the vinyl side of my system is of superior quality now. I am still burning in the NAP 300DR.

My system, Sondek, Cirkus, Kore, Ekos II, Krystal and Lingo 4

NAC 252/Supercap DR

NAP 300DR

Superline with Airplugs 576R, 470pf ( care of Peter )

CD5X/flatcap/Hiline interconnect

Alleas with Chord Sureline

All mounted on Naim Fraim shelving

I do hope someone has maybe experienced the same and look forward to shed some light on this.

thanks

Neil

Posted on: 27 May 2018 by French Rooster

quite different, but in the past i added an hicap on the stageline :  a big upgrade on the first secondes.

Posted on: 27 May 2018 by Neil H

Many thanks for your swift reply........Its encouraging

Neil

Posted on: 27 May 2018 by Ravenswood10

A dedicated PS is the way to go. I run my Superline with a HiCap DR. When funds permit I’ll be going Supercap DR. HiFi Critic ran an interesting Phono pre-amp comparison in the last issue, the Supercap/HiCap DR combo came out really well so I imagine that the Suprcap will be the icing on the cake.

Posted on: 27 May 2018 by Neil H

Thanks for your time to reply to my cry for help. The more I hear the replies and the reading forums regarding the upgrade the more confident I am in spending the money. Of course its the best compliment for the Superline.

Thanks again

Neil

 

Posted on: 27 May 2018 by yeti42

I power my superline with the supercap that was freed up when I upgraded the pre. For a while I powered it from the new pre having disliked the supercap powering it via a Sniac but the supercap via a Burndy is what it was made for and leaves the AUX power from a 552 way behind. There is an obvious alternative to buying a second supercap.

Posted on: 27 May 2018 by lyndon

Are you getting a supercap or supercap DR

if it’s only a supercap then that might be best on the 252 and put the DR on the superline 

another alternative could be a Radikal

 

lyndon

 

Posted on: 27 May 2018 by Chris Dolan

The Superline powered by a Supercap DR is pretty damn special, but a Radikal opens up the possibility of switching to a Urika. However, as the Lingo 4 is probably a recent purchase I doubt that you would want to go that route

Posted on: 27 May 2018 by Neil H

Thanks to you all for such great advice and suggestions.

Im purchasing a Supercap DR as my 252/Supercap DR are a recent purchase also. I guess this makes the difference...

I was kind of looking at the radikal route but I have to admit I am a Naim die hard and as you quite rightly say I have just recently purchased the Lingo 4 but like all things it too can be upgraded later.

thank you so much to you all

Neil

Posted on: 27 May 2018 by lyndon

When I went from supercap to DR on the superline it was quite a noticeable improvement 

what ive noticed with DR it gives the music a much more natural presentation 

i went from hi cap to supercap on a prefix many moons ago

what I would suggest is you remove the phono boards from the 252, if the 52 is anything to go buy these boards drain quite a lot of power even when not in use 

lyndon

 

Posted on: 27 May 2018 by nitrous
lyndon posted:

what I would suggest is you remove the phono boards from the 252, 

lyndon

 

No internal boards in 252 to worry about

Posted on: 27 May 2018 by Adam Zielinski

SuperCap DR on a SuperLine - escellent. It’s worthy of a best turntable.

Two points to note: you will need to additional cables - SNAXO/SuperLine Burndy and a HiLine 4-pin DIN > 5-pin DIN  (connects an output on a SuperCap to NAC’s aux input,

Posted on: 27 May 2018 by Neil H

Thanks Im pretty hell bent on the purchase of the DR and can't wait to install it, I will be investing in the burndy at the same time as I have read its much better over the conventional snaic.

Thanks again folks

Neil

Posted on: 27 May 2018 by Adam Zielinski
Neil H posted:

Thanks Im pretty hell bent on the purchase of the DR and can't wait to install it, I will be investing in the burndy at the same time as I have read its much better over the conventional snaic.

Thanks again folks

Neil

As far as I know SuperLine and SuperCap can only be connected using a special Burndy. So you’ll need to order it too.

Posted on: 27 May 2018 by Skip

I have been very happy with the Superline and Supercap DR.   It works very well with the Lyra Kleos SL. 

Posted on: 27 May 2018 by Foot tapper

Hi Neil,
We tried a Superline fed from the 52 pre-amp and it sounded good, if not spectacular.  Then we powered it from a dedicated Supercap DR.  Words like Gosh! and Wow! spring to mind.  A transformational improvement, the difference between an okay phono stage and a truly great one.  You are in for a treat.

Best regards, FT

Posted on: 28 May 2018 by Neil H

Thanks folks for your comments, I am ordering a Burndy too. Im so looking forward to receiving it with your comments FT, I like treats!!

Thank you

Neil

Posted on: 28 May 2018 by u77033103172058601
Foot tapper posted:

Hi Neil,
We tried a Superline fed from the 52 pre-amp and it sounded good, if not spectacular.  Then we powered it from a dedicated Supercap DR.  Words like Gosh! and Wow! spring to mind.  A transformational improvement, the difference between an okay phono stage and a truly great one.  You are in for a treat.

Best regards, FT

I can endorse this view. In a (rare) moment of trying to limit boxes, we tried the S'Line powered from the 552. It took only a few moments to reinstate the S'Cap and restore audio rightness. Must get a DR for the S'Cap.