How does an ND555, bypass the bottleneck of Ethernet?

Posted by: Consciousmess on 29 May 2018

Surely, one can easily upgrade interconnects and have locally stored music I.e. HDX, but once you’re in the streaming domain, those Ethernet leads are as cheap as chips - and surely not allowing as much data through compared to locally stored???

Posted on: 30 May 2018 by Innocent Bystander
james n posted:
Innocent Bystander posted:
james n posted:

I suppose you've always got a trade of SQ vs usability. Buffering whole tracks allow other processes to be shut down during playback which can be beneficial at the expense of a very slight delay during playback (hardly noticeable but it annoys some !). 

 

Never the slightest delay in playback with Audirvana, even with album-long tracks, or tracks leading straight into one another - but that will be a function of available RAM, and I assume that with tracks leading straight on it must actually at some point load the next one - unless it loads all selected at the time of selection.

Yes that's got better over the years. When I ditched Audivarna it was still a bit buggy with memory play usually if the next track was a different bit depth / sampling rate.

I suppose if you have loaded a playlist then intelligent software will start to preload the next track before the others finished to give seamless playback.

It probably helps that I have 8GB RAM - deliberately maxed out to ensure no problems, and memory being so cheap nowadays.

Posted on: 30 May 2018 by Simon-in-Suffolk
Consciousmess posted:

So in short, buffer size aside, cheap Ethernet cables vs Chord Sarum interconnects is null and void as all the data is grabbed into the buffer vs real time data capture in an interconnect?

No, No, No and a thousand times No..... 

All these ethernet cables do in this regard is act as a kind of  RF stub - and different cables have different characteristics and different loading effects on the connected device. If the ethernet cable is connected then physical synchronisation clocks are running over the send receive twisted pairs when general layer 2 frames are passing - which occurs typically whether media is transferring or not on a typical LAN. There are typically .96uS (for Fast Ethernet - 100Mbps) pause interruptions to the clock bursts between data frames which again produces its own RF content... All this has nothing to do with transferred payload such as sample data etc - it is all a side effect of the physical interactions of how a network functions at the physical and physical link layer.

Therefore to eliminate the effects of a network - you would need to administratively take the link down or physically disconnected it.. 

Posted on: 30 May 2018 by Consciousmess

Whoosh - right over my head!! You are certainly well informed, Simon!!!

Posted on: 30 May 2018 by Simon-in-Suffolk

well yes  you did ask the question...... so in short then no, it is not null and void 

Am I well informed? - I suspect no more than many - but then my field is IT engineering with some background in RF engineering... but ask me to identify the name of some particular wild flower in the garden -  I am afraid the chances are is all I could  do is smile...

Posted on: 30 May 2018 by Phil Harris
Simon-in-Suffolk posted:

well yes  you did ask the question...... so in short then no, it is not null and void 

Am I well informed? - I suspect no more than many - but then my field is IT engineering with some background in RF engineering... but ask me to identify the name of some particular wild flower in the garden -  I am afraid the chances are is all I could  do is smile...

I have the same conversations with "She Who Must Be Obeyed" at home ... she smiles sweetly at me and drifts off into thoughts of trees and flowers when I talk about 'my' stuff and when she says anything to me about the garden I look at her and say "It's all green to me..." 

Phil

Posted on: 30 May 2018 by Innocent Bystander

I can rocognise a dandelion, and often wonder if it is better to give in and have a lawn composed entirely of dandelions: they are even quite pretty, and children love them...     But then, a bit of grass poking through somewhere would be a weed!

Posted on: 30 May 2018 by ken c

I try to uproot dandelions in our 2 lawns -- front and back -- but I have come to realise this is a loosing battle -- so he thought of a dandelion lawn has crossed my mind :-)  -- expect that it probably wont look as nice as a grass lawn.. 

enjoy

ken