DIN interconnects - Naim NA-22

Posted by: Alley Cat on 02 September 2018

I've had some old gear in storage and after a huge struggle moving boxes I finally located the Nac 72 and some Hi-Caps.

Where however have the SNAIC's gone.

I found in another box of cables a zip-locked back with a 5 pin to 5 pin DIN lead labelled NA-22 - could this be a general DIN interconnect, might it have come with an old Naim CD player I am yet to find?

Presumably not interchangeable with a SNAIC?

Also, can someone confirm that I use a 5 pin SNAIC to the Hi-Cap, then the 4 pin DIN to XLR to the 250. Naturally my manuals are hiding somewhere else in storage too!

Oddly many of the DIN sockets on the 72 and Hi-Caps have a white dusty film on the black parts and possibly some white gritty stuff on one - dirt/dust/mold? Don't remember them being like that before, though some look pristine so maybe the connectors go like this with age? Isopropyl alcohol ok to clean them with?

Guess they could all do with a service anyway.....

Posted on: 02 September 2018 by Alley Cat

Even more baffled now.

I knew I had box of leads in the other room:

5 pin to 5 pin DIN - simply has a small 'c' on it (grey)

5 pin to 5 pin DIN - NA-20 (grey)

5 pin to 5 pin DIN - NA 34 (black)

Could some kind soul enlighten me as my organisational skills have deserted me in later life!

(The next challenge will be several dozen 'wall wart' PSU's for various gadgets/hard drives - a disaster waiting to happen - I fired an old Seagate desktop drive enclosure last year, though I still think it was the correct PSU adapter).

Posted on: 02 September 2018 by Alley Cat

Ok, so Naim support pages and forum search didn't help, but Google brought this up:

https://forums.naimaudio.com/t...m-cable-code-numbers

So presumably the black cable is the SNAIC. The NA-22 has a green label so I assume that came with the CD player.

Posted on: 02 September 2018 by Alley Cat

Alley Cat posted:
Even more baffled now.
I knew I had box of leads in the other room:
5 pin to 5 pin DIN - simply has a small 'c' on it (grey)
5 pin to 5 pin DIN - NA-20 (grey)
5 pin to 5 pin DIN - NA 34 (black)
Could some kind soul enlighten me as my organisational skills have deserted me in later life!
(The next challenge will be several dozen 'wall wart' PSU's for various gadgets/hard drives - a disaster waiting to happen - I fired an old Seagate desktop drive enclosure last year, though I still think it was the correct PSU adapter).

Oops...edit:

5 pin to 5 pin DIN - simply has a small 'c' on it (grey cable, white label) - perhaps it's a small 'u' not a 'c' ?

5 pin to 5 pin DIN - NA-20 (grey cable, white cable)

4 pin to 4 pin DIN - NA 34 (black cable, white label)

Posted on: 02 September 2018 by Alley Cat

Typical how did I miss this in the FAQs:

https://forums.naimaudio.com/t...cs-and-interconnects

Posted on: 03 September 2018 by Richard Dane

Alley Cat, the NA-xx numbers refer to the person who assembled the lead. The FAQ should tell you everything else you need to know here.

Posted on: 03 September 2018 by Huge

The important difference is in the number and orientation of the pins in the DIN plugs.

5 pins 180° - Interconnect

5 pins 270° - SNAIC 5

4 pins - SNAIC 4

As Richard says, look at the FAQ.

(There are also a few specialised cables around as well with combinations of plugs.)

Posted on: 03 September 2018 by Alley Cat

Richard Dane posted:
Alley Cat, the NA-xx numbers refer to the person who assembled the lead. The FAQ should tell you everything else you need to know here.

I'd probably had all the stuff connected up for nearly 20 years in an active setup before it went into storage - no wonder I couldn't remember which lead was which as there had been little need to reconnect it all bar the occasional equipment table change!

Posted on: 03 September 2018 by Alley Cat

Huge posted:
The important difference is in the number and orientation of the pins in the DIN plugs.
5 pins 180° - Interconnect
5 pins 270° - SNAIC 5
4 pins - SNAIC 4
As Richard says, look at the FAQ.

(There are also a few specialised cables around as well with combinations of plugs.)

Great summary Huge.

I'd spent an exhausting afternoon finding the equipment in the storage unit and was fiddling with the cables far too late last night to notice the 180 vs 270 arrangement - heck at one stage I couldn't even count the number of pins properly!

Posted on: 03 September 2018 by Bob the Builder

Once you get it sorted take pictures on your phone and also mark the cables.

Posted on: 03 September 2018 by Alley Cat

Bob the Builder posted:
Once you get it sorted take pictures on your phone and also mark the cables.

Yes - I was thinking the same!