Chord launches updated signature speaker cables!

I never really came on with their previous Signature cable.

Tried a few, also Epic, funny enough Odyssey worked better at my place

I have tried a few Chord speaker cables, reasonably expensive QED one and also  TQ Black all of which are made of very fancy materials but the best have been Nac A5 which if you open up are just quite thick copper strands surrounded by what seems to be a mix of plastic and asphalt not a bit of Taylon, silver or cotton in site. 

Bob the Builder posted:

I have tried a few Chord speaker cables, reasonably expensive QED one and also  TQ Black all of which are made of very fancy materials but the best have been Nac A5 which if you open up are just quite thick copper strands surrounded by what seems to be a mix of plastic and asphalt not a bit of Taylon, silver or cotton in site. 

Good and cheap however even Naim thinks that  naca5 is not the answer to all the worlds speaker cables, They may have been late to the  expensive cable party game, but they are on the waggon now.

Claus

£900.00/m for this new Chord Signature is a little rich. It costs more than Naim's flagship Super Lumina cables. 

Its actually £300 per mono metre , if you read the details.

Yeah

There seem to be people willing to pay silly money for a cable

Price seem to be the driving factor, is it expensive - it must be good

Would they hear much of a difference to justify, - listening blind tested ?

Nah, probably not

Would they admit it, Nah, probably not

I believe its a audiophool thing mainly, manufacturers long seen the profitable in launching, Perhaps biwire ticked that.

Such thing doesn't exist in the professional world, record studios etc.. its a pure hifi audio issue

Claus-Thoegersen posted:

Bob the Builder posted:

I have tried a few Chord speaker cables, reasonably expensive QED one and also  TQ Black all of which are made of very fancy materials but the best have been Nac A5 which if you open up are just quite thick copper strands surrounded by what seems to be a mix of plastic and asphalt not a bit of Taylon, silver or cotton in site. 

 

Good and cheap however even Naim thinks that  naca5 is not the answer to all the worlds speaker cables, They may have been late to the  expensive cable party game, but they are on the waggon now.

 

Claus

And Naim must be commended for displaying such altruism. Strange how they got it “wrong” for so long. 

.sjb

Certainly, more expensive is not always better per se and the end result is obviously also very system/speaker dependent. Case in point, I just switched from Audiovector Zero Compression Avantgarde cables (current retail is €2000 for 2x3 meters, I bought them used a few years ago for less than €500) to NACA5 in my home office system (200/202/NAPSC/LP12 Akurate level/Audiovector SR1AA). The Audiovector cables are generally more detailed, more airy/open and provide more nuance/resolution in the lower registers. In comparison, NACA5 sounds a little closed in and has a slight loudness effect to it. BUT, the Audiovector cables were somehow too “fast”, almost as if the sound was on steroids, and it ultimately became too much, too energetic. Some of it may have to do with the Audiovector air motion tweeter, which can become a bit “hot” on certain materials, but in any event when switching to NACA5 the timing somehow changed, as if the music slowed down a bit (in a good way). Not sure how to explain this any better, but the change was very clear. Ideally I’d like a cross between the two, i.e. the detail, openness and resolution of the Audiovector cables combined with the timing of NACA5 (maybe that’s what Super Lumina does?), but for now in terms of musical enjoyment I’m very happy with NACA5 (which retail for less than €300 for 2x3 meters). Expensive cables are not necessarily all crazily overpriced and how much one wants to spend on cables is ultimately a very subjective decision – but the law of diminishing returns certainly applies here.

Perol posted:

Yeah

There seem to be people willing to pay silly money for a cable

Price seem to be the driving factor, is it expensive - it must be good

Would they hear much of a difference to justify, - listening blind tested ?

Nah, probably not

Would they admit it, Nah, probably not

I believe its a audiophool thing mainly, manufacturers long seen the profitable in launching, Perhaps biwire ticked that.

Such thing doesn't exist in the professional world, record studios etc.. its a pure hifi audio issue

And you have of course listened to many many expensive cables before you made up your mind about it? or is it  just something you have been thvinking without using energy and actually listening. But of course everything that is done in the pro world is the right way to do it, but then  why are you on the Naim forum, Naim does all the wrong things that are not done in the pro world!!!

In the ideal world you should cut off your head and replace it with a set of provessional microphones and your world would be in check with your views.

Claus

Claus-Thoegersen posted:

Perol posted:

Yeah

There seem to be people willing to pay silly money for a cable

Price seem to be the driving factor, is it expensive - it must be good

Would they hear much of a difference to justify, - listening blind tested ?

Nah, probably not

Would they admit it, Nah, probably not

I believe its a audiophool thing mainly, manufacturers long seen the profitable in launching, Perhaps biwire ticked that.

Such thing doesn't exist in the professional world, record studios etc.. its a pure hifi audio issue

 

And you have of course listened to many many expensive cables before you made up your mind about it? or is it  just something you have been thvinking without using energy and actually listening. But of course everything that is done in the pro world is the right way to do it, but then  why are you on the Naim forum, Naim does all the wrong things that are not done in the pro world!!!

In the ideal world you should cut off your head and replace it with a set of provessional microphones and your world would be in check with your views.

 

Claus

Good word again Claus  maybe not the headcut

Perol posted:.

Such thing doesn't exist in the professional world, record studios etc.. its a pure hifi audio issue

Not quite true.  Go and talk to the guys at Abbey Road - they’ve invested heavily in cabling.