ETNA & SUPERLINE

This from an earlier discussion, I’ve never heard any lyra so no dorict experience though experimenting with a 470pF plug once you have the R selected can be interesting. Do you have the Single Layer version of the Etna? It might make a difference to the best loading.

https://forums.naimaudio.com/t...ns#45774755533403945

Thanks YETI42

its the normal Etna not the SL

lyndon

Consensus on most Lyras has been a 576ohm load with either 470pf or 1nf capacitance. 

However, note that the standard Superline is optimum for the SL lyras whereas standard versions are probably happier with the E version of the Superline.

Hi Richard,

what loading would recommend for the Kiseki Blue NS ?

Regards,

Martin

Martin, I don't know. Maybe someone else has tried.  Have you tried the standard values and combinations yet?

Richard

576R & 470pf is exactly what I have, also this has been confirmed by the man in Leicester 

would you know if Superlines can be converted to E ?

just a thought 

lyndon

Lyndon, yes, that man in Leicester did lots of good work trying out different loadings with the Superline.

I'm fairly sure that the Superline can be converted, but Naim service dept. can confirm for sure - the E just lowers the gain slightly and increases the headroom for higher output Low output MCs of 0.5mV - 0.65mV

Thanks Richard I will look into that

im off up the M1 next week for some tangerine

i will get that out of the way and then think about some E

lyndon

I´ve been using a Lyra Skala with no capacitance and 470R standard plug (now I have ordered a 470R deep cryo Z-foil Air-plug) for years into a standard Superline. Worked a treat for me. I never had the feeling the Superline was pushed too hard or had little headroom in any record I played. Though the Lyra Skala was (it´s not in production anymore) maybe voiced a little special in the Lyra lineup... A year back a new one replaced my old one.

Lyndon, I´m very interested on your findings on the standard Etna into standard Superline  - and maybe standard Superline vs E in this context. So, please, keep us up to date...

Regards,

Lyndon - you could just trade the Etna in for an Etna SL 

Richard Dane posted:

Consensus on most Lyras has been a 576ohm load with either 470pf or 1nf capacitance. 

Wow. Any capacitance on a standard Superline has been a total dud in my system.

Recently I tried that after I fitted EKOS SE in place of ARO since it was sounding sooo bright on Lyra Etna.

I'm in a process of changing over my trusty 400R to something a bit lower now for my Etna SL.

I found 470 pF 470R  worked best with Aro/DV17D3, 100 R with Aro/proteus and 100R/470pF with Schröder/proteus. Probaly due to the cable capacitance. The Ekos probaby isn’t lower capacitance than an Aro.

Yeti, but Dyna/Trans. are like a whole different kettle of fish from Lyras tho. The former usually work best with S loading whereas current Linn/Lyra work better with close to K loading.

*The Ekos probaby isn’t lower capacitance than an Aro.*

But the arm cables are different, tho. Wish I could use ARO cables on Linn arm but was told no. Do we know if ARO cables and Linn T-cables have the same capacitance?

Kuma, that is exactly what Martina Schöner from L‘art du son/Loricraft told me, as I nearly bought the Etna. Skala with Aro: perfect match. For the Etna a tonearm  with more control over the cart would be strongly recommended. 

Would be interested in your findings with the Etna, as it got rave reviews in the press.

review by Michael Fremer on stereophile or analog planet.

Can you tell me what he said about it in 50 words or less?

I have 400 ohm on my Kleos SL and no capacitance.

Skip,

On which arm?

I thought I'd seen a value for the Aro somewhere but can't find it now, Linn are very coy in any case. Thouigh I have a capacitance bridge available my Aro is 800 miles away and I don't have access to an Ekos or even a T cable so it's back to trial and error I'm afraid.