L'Art du Son record cleaning fluid - Should you add surfactant - and rinse afterwards - and what type of water?

Simon-in-Suffolk posted:

Other than it is either distilled water or not... if genuine distilled water by definition it will be identical to other distilled water, nothing to do with price.. just whether it’s genuine pure water or water with impurities. 

The action of distilled water is not the issue, it's the storing, collection, process.... etc. There are many variables during and after the process that affect the purity of the water. Yes, I could collect steam from my kettle in a dirty cup and leave it open to the air for 48hrs, but I certainly wouldn't use it on my £100 S&G BOTW 45rpm vinyl. Cost has very much to do with it. For the pittance that even the expensive distilled water costs, it pales into insignificance to the cost of precious vinyl.

Innocent - you say 'stored in a manner to prenpvent contamination and algal growth'. Does this mean what Count D says:

'When using/storing the water, the container should have a sealed tap-lid, so every time you use it, it doesn't unnecessarily let in contaminated air. Pure water absorbs minerals from ambient air rapidly apparently.'

What does that mean in detail? And will my APC water come in a container that will achieve this, or will it degrade significantly - esp in the summer? Will it be ruined even in a sealed container after one summer in a cupboard in my garage (I don't have a basement)?

Pure water absorbs minerals from ambient air rapidly apparently.'

What minerals are there floating around in the air then ?

The worst that could happen is some co2 could be absorbed from the air ...and that's going to be minimal

Jesus you talk rubbish. Right from the start too.

count.d posted:

Jesus you talk rubbish. Right from the start too.

That's a little uncalled for... Whether it was aimed at me or jimdog (which is not clear)

If you have nothing useful to say .....say nothing pls

JimDog posted:

Innocent - you say 'stored in a manner to prenpvent contamination and algal growth'. Does this mean what Count D says:

'When using/storing the water, the container should have a sealed tap-lid, so every time you use it, it doesn't unnecessarily let in contaminated air. Pure water absorbs minerals from ambient air rapidly apparently.'

What does that mean in detail? And will my APC water come in a container that will achieve this, or will it degrade significantly - esp in the summer? Will it be ruined even in a sealed container after one summer in a cupboard in my garage (I don't have a basement)?

Keep in an inert bottle - preferably glass, and ideally with a PTFE (teflon) liner in the lid, but in practice PET or HDOE are unlikely to be a problem. And keep in a cool, dark place - an amber bottle isn’t necessary, but a dark cupboard. Minerals will only gain access via dust, and contaminated air is not likely to be an issue - the biggest problem is microorganisms, particularly algae, which is the reason for keeping cool and in the dark.

Tim et al

I'm looking for something that will keep an LP centre label dry while I clean (and maybe rinse) it on a flat lazy susan with a bit of dowling drilled into the centre. I've looked at the Knosti Disco clamps and the Project Clamp It online. Nor sure whether either of them needs to be clamped right thru the record from both sides, or will work clamped or placed onto the record just from above?

Also, interested whether say the Project Clamp It or some other TT weight or clamp might also be usable on my old Rega Planar 3 as a way of keeping records even more solidly in place - or would this be more likely to interfere with the operation of the TT? (The TT does run quite a bit fast at about 33.8rpm).

This U.S. video shows how one can use a 'Slotted Flush Plug' to cover the centre label, but I'm stuggling to find one of those in the UK: https://youtu.be/IJm8wWPSSZE

Think most of the commercial clamps go though the record ..the ones I use certainly do..

I suspect you might have to engineer something yourself to fit your lazy Susan unfortunately.

To be honest.  Unless you absolutely drench the lable for a long time ..it should be fine.. I find water just rolls off the lables 99% of the time I splash them